[QUOTE=Vangelovski;136901]Victor,

Are you capable of anything more than ranting and incoherent dribble when your views are linked to their logical conclusions? You clearly demonstrated your support for Albanian seccessionist movements and gave the specific example of Debar declaring independence. One would also assume that you would have no qualms about them deciding to join Albania. It might not be too far off.

All these "local communities", as you refer to them, seem to want to turn Macedonia (as a whole) into an Albanian state. "Their free choice" screams Victor, "their free choice". In all of this, he forgets the Macedonians, the actual majority and the indigenous owners of this territory.[/QUOTE]

"Incoherent dribble" in two posts in a row...A+ for you!

Your logical stretches are not stretches... they're leaps. I hope your school makes you work harder and think a little more for that degree they may or may not give you.

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;136899]Let's hope nobody else agrees with you that the Badinter Principle is acceptable for Macedonia. That would be awful.[/QUOTE]

Still can't say whether you'd complain this much about the Badinter Principle if it were applied to Greece,Bulgaria or Albania?

[quote=vicsinad;136905]"Incoherent dribble" in two posts in a row...A+ for you!

Your logical stretches are not stretches... they're leaps. I hope your school makes you work harder and think a little more for that degree they may or may not give you.[/quote]What's such a leap Victor? You said that the local community should decide its own fate - if that includes breaking away from Macedonia than why couldn't it also include merging with Albania if it so chooses? That's what you are arguing - the locals making their own decisions about which country (if any) they belong to?

Victor - Macedonian by ancestry, Albanian by choice.

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Victor - Macedonian by ancestry, Albanian by choice.[/QUOTE]

Tom -- weak by birth, weaker by choice.

[quote=vicsinad;136910]Tom -- weak by birth, weaker by choice.[/quote]
I see you still can't even come up with your own lines and you need to plagarise everything. Except your version doesn't even makes sense!?!?

[QUOTE=vicsinad;136906]Still can't say whether you'd complain this much about the Badinter Principle if it were applied to Greece,Bulgaria or Albania?[/QUOTE]
I actually did say and I see no need to repeat or change my opinion.
And, unlike you, I have a special place in my heart for the Republic of Macedonia. I still favour a nation that recognises its Macedonian majority and makes them feel like it is their homeland.

But you can't control yourself, you're just loving that Albanian final say in Macedonia. I never thought a Macedonian would ever be for it. Only an anti-Macedonian would.

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[QUOTE=Vangelovski;136911]I see you still can't even come up with your own lines and you need to plagarise everything. Except your version doesn't even makes sense!?!?[/QUOTE]

I didn't know "retarded idiot" was so original.

Still don't know the definition of plagiarize, do you?

[quote=vicsinad;136926]I didn't know "retarded idiot" was so original.

Still don't know the definition of plagiarize, do you?[/quote]I don't think you quite know the definition of plagiarise idiot. Try looking it up and posting it here for us. One does not need to copy something word for word - it includes copying something that was just said to you and pretending that you came up with it first. Its basically all you can do when your caught with your pants down in regard to your anti-Macedonian views.

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;136912]I actually did say and I see no need to repeat or change my opinion.
And, unlike you, I have a special place in my heart for the Republic of Macedonia. I still favour a nation that recognises its Macedonian majority and makes them feel like it is their homeland.

But you can't control yourself, you're just loving that Albanian final say in Macedonia. I never thought a Macedonian would ever be for it. Only an anti-Macedonian would.[/QUOTE]

Ah, yes, you have such a special place for the Republic of Macedonia that there is a map of it on your computer screen and your wall. As a matter of fact, it's SO special that you'd rather live in Australia...because boy, nothing reminds you of Macedonian culture as much as accounting for the dollar bills in your bank account.


I wonder what revoking the Badinter Principle would change?

All of a sudden Albanians are going to stop wanting western Macedonia?
No.
It's going to prevent Albanians from realizing their goals because they have no "legal" mechanism to do so?
No.
Macedonians are going to be in control of Albanian dominated villages?
No.
Albanians are going to learn the Macedonian language and respect Macedonia as a state?
No.
Macedonians are going to be in charge of their destiny and country?
Riiiiight

Albanians there are going to do what they want to do regardless of the laws or "rights" situations....they did well before the OFA and BP and they're going to do it well after the OFA and BP.

C'mon...there has to be a better way to fighting for Macedonia and the Macedonian Cause than being Risto the Great: Internet Warrior!