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lavce pelagonski 07-13-2011 09:19 PM

We should ask Tachi and Ahmeti to help the Macedonians in Albania to teach them how to be a coalition partner and turn Albania into a federation. Im guessing they will say NO.

European 07-13-2011 09:26 PM

Kicevo celebrates Independence of Kosovo?

Dita e Pavarsisë së Kosovës 2011 - Kërçovë (Uskanë)
Kosovo Independence Day 2011 - Kicevo (Uskana)

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlZUn9FU9lM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL]‪Dita e PavarsisĂ« sĂ« KosovĂ«s 2011 - KĂ«rçovĂ« (UskanĂ«)‬‏ - YouTube[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Ve5BSBTMs&feature=related]‪Dita e PavarsisĂ« sĂ« KosovĂ«s 2011 - KĂ«rçovĂ« (UskanĂ«) - Pjesa II‬‏ - YouTube[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYBh6Bf09Nw&feature=related]‪Dita e PavarsisĂ« sĂ« KosovĂ«s 2011 - KĂ«rçovĂ« (UskanĂ«) - Pjesa III‬‏ - YouTube[/url]

[QUOTE]Dita e Pavarsise se Kosoves ne menyre madheshtore u shenua ne Kercove.
Kjo Dite qe nga shpallja e Pavarsise se Kosoves Festohet ne vazhdimsi ne kete qytet!
Kercova kesaj radhe ishte i vetmi qytet ne Maqedoni qe realizoi nje projekt te tille, me mbeshtetjen e Komunes se Zajazit, Osllomese dhe Deges se BDI.
Falenderojme gjithe artistet shqiptar qe moren pjese.

GEZUAR DITA E PAVARSISE SE KOSOVES![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Kosovo Independence Day in grand fashion that was marked in Kicevo.
This Day since the declaration of Kosovo's independence celebrated continuously in this city!
Kercova this time was the only city in Macedonia that had such a project, supported by the Commune of Zajas, and the branch Osllomese DUI.
Thank Albanian artists who participated.

Happy day of Kosovo's independence![/QUOTE]

So the Albanian party DUI sponsored the festivities?

Risto the Great 07-13-2011 10:28 PM

Wonder if they would come out for a celebration of Macedonia's independence.
Actually, I wonder if Macedonians would come out.

George S. 07-14-2011 03:36 AM

they could change their mentality they are allways thinking what they can get rather than give.

Niko777 07-15-2011 05:16 PM

[B][U][COLOR="Red"]Albanian Propaganda Spreading to Orthodox Macedonians?[/COLOR][/U][/B]

[QUOTE]Orthodox Albanians, assimilated and forgotten in Macedonia

15.07.2011, ora 20:44


Orthodox Albanians in Macedonia are a community that is not officially recognized, although they are a reality and the reality around them is a silent issue. Are in a small number, those who declare that they are Albanians, but with the Orthodox religion.

Branko Manolovski (pictured) is the Albanian Orthodox, a patriot that told the story of his family, the truth of today′s orthodox people, and remission of their roots.

The villages of Reka and Gostivar and also settlements in the southeastern part of Macedonia were once populated areas with majority Albanian Orthodox religion. Manolovski told that after the Serbian occupation since 1913 began the assimilation of Orthodox Albanians and was put pressure on these areas to change their surnames. /albeu.com/
[/QUOTE]

Niko777 07-15-2011 05:35 PM

[U][B][COLOR="Red"]NO Church will be built on the Skopje Kale[/COLOR][/B][/U]

[B]Instead, there will be three museums:

Museum of Prehistory
Museum of the Byzantine Empire
Museum of the Ottoman Empire

The Albanians are already calling the first museum to be named "Museum of the Dardanian Era"[/B]

Onur 07-15-2011 06:07 PM

Macedonia would have been converted all the Ottoman era mosques to museums already, just like we did in Turkey in 1930s for the churches. With this way, you protect centuries old buildings and it also brings benefit to the country`s tourism. In Turkey, all the formerly churches which has been converted to a mosque in Ottoman era became museums in 1930s, like Hagia Sophia.

This is already the best way to protect these buildings. A ~500 year old building is too precious to serve the public every day without any restriction. Also, we prevented stupid conflicts too. I mean if Turkey would allow Hagia Sophia to serve as a church again, then muslim extremists would shout around but if it would be a mosque, then christians would shout. Some Greeks tries to secretly perform a ritual inside every year by hiding some candles inside their pockets and some muslims tries to pray in it as a provocation but authorities doesn't allow that.

Also, no tourists could have properly see these buildings if they would be church or mosque. If i had an authority, i would convert Mimar Sinan`s blue mosque at front of Hagia Sophia as a museum too. One time i tried to see it in Istanbul but there was a prayer inside when i was there and i couldn't see inside of it. It`s stupid to allow a magnificent 600 year old building serving in daily use.


Btw Niko, wth is Dardanian era in Skopje and whats go to the with that particular kale???

Niko777 07-15-2011 09:56 PM

The Dardanians were an Illyrian tribe and the Albanian extremists believe Skopje was the center of ancient Illyrian culture blah blah blah, despite the fact that there has been no Illyrian artifact ever found on Skopje's Kale, and this has been confirmed by both Macedonian and Albanian archeologists.

Soldier of Macedon 07-16-2011 12:51 AM

Skopje was one hub of Thraco-Illyrian interaction and culture, and was an important centre during its time - around 2,000 years ago. But that has nothing to do with Albanians who only came to the area relatively recently.

TrueMacedonian 07-16-2011 04:51 PM

[url]http://www.eurasiareview.com/macedonia-soothes-albanians-over-hague-cases-14072011/[/url]

[B]Macedonia Soothes Albanians Over Hague Cases[/B]
July 14, 2011
By Sinisa Jakov Marusic and Sase Dimovski

Talks between Gruevski’s VMRO-DPMNE party and its ethnic Albanian partner, the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI, appear to be over on a new government.

Talks began after both parties won the June 5 elections in their respective ethnic blocs.

Sources from both parties told Balkan Insight that an agreement on a new government was speedy after VMRO-DPMNE accepted three key DUI demands concerning the Albanian community.

[B]VMRO-DPMNE reportedly agreed to dump plans to re-examine four war crimes cases that the International Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia, ICTY, had returned to Macedonia in 2008.

The cases involve alleged crimes committed by ethnic Albanian guerrillas, including current DUI officials, during the 2001 armed conflict in the country.[/B]

Many feared that reviving the cases before the Macedonia’s domestic courts would rekindle the ethnic disputes of the past.

Since the four cases were returned from the Hague, only one case of alleged torture perpetrated against construction workers has reached the courts, [B]but it has been repeatedly postponed.[/B]

[B]A senior official from the Macedonian prosecution recently told Balkan Insight under condition of anonymity that following the return of the Hague cases he received political instructions to “manage the cases”, meaning stall proceedings in the courts.[/B]

DUI and VMRO-DPMNE officials brief that these cases will now lapse under a general amnesty law for former insurgents that was adopted shortly after the conflict ended.

In 2001 Macedonia saw an armed conflict between Albanian insurgents and the security forces. The clashes ended with the signing of the Ohrid peace accord that guaranteed Albanians more rights. The insurgency leaders then formed the DUI.

[B]Party sources say the two winning parties have agreed that families of former Albanian insurgents who were injured or killed during the 2001 conflict will receive state pensions. The DUI had previously insisted on state pensions for all former insurgents, whether or not they were injured.[/B]

[B]The third DUI demand that Gruevski has reportedly accepted concerns language. Ethnic Albanian MPs and ministers want the right to use their native language in parliament.[/B]

Currently, Albanian can be used in parliament, but with restrictions. For example, a legislator may not use Albanian when presiding over a parliamentary commission, but its use is permissible during plenary sessions.

Gruevski’s new ministerial line-up is still a mystery. But some new faces are anticipated. [B]It is also expected that the DUI will have more ministers than it did in the last government.[/B]

The third government led by Gruevski will most probably be adopted without hitches, as his party and the DUI control over 70 of the 123 seats in parliament. Gruevski has been in power since 2006.


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