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Soldier of Macedon 04-03-2011 06:59 PM

I have merged individual threads relating to Justinian and Belisarius into this one.

lavce pelagonski 07-23-2011 07:42 AM

Таор и Јустинијана Прима
 
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnwFzowphaQ]‪Таор и Јустинијана Прима‬‏ - YouTube[/url]

Soldier of Macedon 12-26-2011 06:50 PM

On the first couple of pages in this thread the possibility of 'Belisarius' meaning 'White Prince' was discussed. The name may actually be related to the south Slavic name 'Velizar', meaning 'great'. Another name with a similar ending is 'Svetozar'. Just a thought.

Carlin 02-21-2019 01:42 PM

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Carlin 02-21-2019 03:14 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;30171]Why are Zimarchus and Dityvistus "recognisably Thracian"?
We see them described a Illyrian in other texts.
Does anyone feel that many Proto Thracians became the Vlachs we know in modern times?[/QUOTE]

This is a very good question. Why are Zimarchus and Dityvistus Thracian names?

If I find anything relevant I will post it here.

For now, Andrs Mcsy (link 1 below) seems to argue that the analysis of local names shows that they are clearly Thracian names with a south Pannonian-Dalmatian (Illyrian) colouring. Soldiers from Scupi and Ratiaria areas have "good Thracian names" according to the same author - names such as: Bitus, Sinna, Dolens, Drigissa, Mucco, Auluzon, Mucatral, Daizo. There is also evidence of southern contact; the name Mestrius, [U]the most frequent among the natives of Scupi[/U], was just as common among Paionians and Pelagonians. Note: Mcsy also states that the inhabitants of Scupi probably spoke Thracian.

There is also the possibility of Celtic influence and origin of certain names (link 4 below). Ivanovitch Rostovtzeff states (link 5 below) that Roman troops/colonies were not planted in a desert land. Most, if not all, of the Roman fortresses were built in the immediate vicinity of large Celtic, Illyrian, and Thracian villages.

Links:
1) [url]https://books.google.ca/books?id=LP9RAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA65&dq=Mocsy+Drigissa&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-gaHozs3gAhULr4MKHV_5Cq4Q6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=Mocsy%20Drigissa&f=false[/url]
2) [url]https://books.google.ca/books?id=VfjsAAAAMAAJ&q=Mocsy+Drigissa&dq=Mocsy+Drigissa&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-gaHozs3gAhULr4MKHV_5Cq4Q6AEILjAB[/url]
3) [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dacian_names[/url]
4) [url]http://www.academia.edu/3292310/The_Thracian_Myth_-_Celtic_Personal_Names_in_Thrace[/url]
5) [url]https://books.google.ca/books?id=6dgC37IqYW0C&pg=PA226&lpg=PA226&dq=Celts+Scupi&source=bl&ots=E7-8loMpKI&sig=ACfU3U28saKEO4ktJLEnMcJvRolDzEv5Dg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQrsD40s3gAhWRrIMKHXauAPE4ChDoATACegQIBxAB#v=onepage&q=Celts%20Scupi&f=false[/url]

PS: It is very likely (almost certain) that the Latin-speaking "Vlachs" arose as a result of fusion of diverse cultures and racial elements: primarily Roman colonists and indigenous Balkan peoples (including Thracians).

George Finlay said that [I]"in the sixth century, the Thracian dialect bore a strong resemblance to corrupt Latin, and to the Vallachian language spoken at the present day"[/I]:
[url]https://books.google.ca/books?id=NWl_VRF7Yz0C&pg=PA281&lpg=PA281&dq=Wallachian+Thracian&source=bl&ots=8-aj0WJFOj&sig=ACfU3U26idxpMZ4StgR1wKblEcQAwekjjg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijheKm1c3gAhVptIMKHcXwDmMQ6AEwC3oECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=Wallachian%20Thracian&f=false[/url]


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