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Tomche Makedonche 10-04-2017 06:43 PM

[url]http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/skopje-mayoral-candidates-fight-for-albanian-votes-10-02-2017[/url]

[B]Macedonian Capital's Mayoral Hopefuls Court Albanian Votes[/B]

In a bid to woo ethnic Albanian voters who may tip the outcome of the approaching local elections in Macedonia both main mayoral candidates for the capital, Skopje, are keeping a lid on divisive nationalist language.

As the two leading candidates for the post of Mayor of Skopje try to woo ethnic Albanian voters ahead of the vote on October 15, both are avoiding the kind of divisive ethnic language that marred last year's general elections.

In the campaign for the December 2016 early general elections, the then ruling VMRO DPMNE party went all out in accusing its main opponents in the Social Democrats, SDSM, of surrendering to ethnic Albanian demands.

This year, however, the party's mayoral candidate for Skopje has even fielded ethnic Albanian politician as party's municipal counselor.

In a clear attempt to circumvent his party's dismal reputation among many Albanians, VMRO DPMNE's Koce Trajanovski, now running for his third term, got support from his Albanian party colleague, Muhamed Ameti.

The two can be seen posing together on Albanian-language billboards that also contain the party's election slogan: "A new era begins for Skopje."

The billboards have been widely displayed in the mainly Albanian districts of Cair and Saraj in Skopje.

A source from Trajanovski's electoral camp confided to BIRN that the party was well aware that it needed to court more Albanian votes.

"In last year's elections, ethnic Albanian votes boosted the SDSM. But in these local elections that will be hard to replicate, as everyone can see that Trajanovski is a hard-working mayor, so we expect many Albanian votes," the source, insisting on anonymity, said.

Previously, the party made few attempts to appeal to Albanians, who make up about a quarter of the population, concentrated in the north and west of the country.

They also make up between 10 and 20 per cent of the population of Skopje but these numbers are only approximate as no national census has taken place in years.

Even after its lost power nationally in May, VMRO DPMNE's leader, Nikola Gruevski, continued attacked a new proposed law allowing greater official use of the Albanian language. Gruevski insisted it would be unconstitutional and would undermine national unity.

However, while appearing on an Albanian-language TV station, Alsat, Gruevski earlier this month insisted that he had nothing against Albanians and vowed to work on improving the party's relations with the community.

Meanwhile, Trajanovski's strongest rival, Petre Silegov, from the SDSM, has an advantage when it comes to courting Albanian votes in the capital.

This party has a far better standing among Albanians thanks to its more "civic" approach. In the last general election, the SDSM won at least 40,000 Albanian votes, which was unprecedented for a mainly ethnic Macedonian party.

For the municipal vote, the SDSM has already secured the support in Skopje of the country's strongest ethnic Albanian party, the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI.

The DUI switched sides nationally in May, abandoning its coalition alliance with VMRO DPMNE and forging a new majority in parliament, which brought the SDSM to power.

In return for its support in Skopje, the SDSM has agreed to support DUI candidates in several mainly Albanian municipalities, such as Tetovo, Gostivar and Debar.

"We will build Skopje together, and for everyone, just as we have started building Macedonia," Silegov told ethnic Albanian residents of Saraj, near Skopje on Sunday, asking for their support.

Skopje political Analyst Albert Musliu said the noticeably milder nationalistic rhetoric in this election reflected the very different nature of national and local elections in which different parties must cooperate to win in ethnically mixed areas.

"In many specific municipalities, one or the other ethnic community needs the votes of the others [to win the election]," Musliu noted.

For the purpose of the local elections, Macedonia is divided into 81 municipalities. The prize is, of course, Skopje, which is home to a third of Macedonia's population of about 2 million.

A total of eight mayoral candidates are standing in Skopje but Trajanovski and Silegov are the front runner, backed by the two main parties in the ethnic Macedonian political camp.

The election campaign started on September 25. It closes on October 13 when an electoral silence descends until polling day On October 15

Liberator of Makedonija 10-04-2017 07:06 PM

[QUOTE=Tomche Makedonche;170241][url]http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/skopje-mayoral-candidates-fight-for-albanian-votes-10-02-2017[/url]

[B]Macedonian Capital's Mayoral Hopefuls Court Albanian Votes[/B]

In a bid to woo ethnic Albanian voters who may tip the outcome of the approaching local elections in Macedonia both main mayoral candidates for the capital, Skopje, are keeping a lid on divisive nationalist language.

As the two leading candidates for the post of Mayor of Skopje try to woo ethnic Albanian voters ahead of the vote on October 15, both are avoiding the kind of divisive ethnic language that marred last year's general elections.

In the campaign for the December 2016 early general elections, the then ruling VMRO DPMNE party went all out in accusing its main opponents in the Social Democrats, SDSM, of surrendering to ethnic Albanian demands.

This year, however, the party's mayoral candidate for Skopje has even fielded ethnic Albanian politician as party's municipal counselor.

In a clear attempt to circumvent his party's dismal reputation among many Albanians, VMRO DPMNE's Koce Trajanovski, now running for his third term, got support from his Albanian party colleague, Muhamed Ameti.

The two can be seen posing together on Albanian-language billboards that also contain the party's election slogan: "A new era begins for Skopje."

The billboards have been widely displayed in the mainly Albanian districts of Cair and Saraj in Skopje.

A source from Trajanovski's electoral camp confided to BIRN that the party was well aware that it needed to court more Albanian votes.

"In last year's elections, ethnic Albanian votes boosted the SDSM. But in these local elections that will be hard to replicate, as everyone can see that Trajanovski is a hard-working mayor, so we expect many Albanian votes," the source, insisting on anonymity, said.

Previously, the party made few attempts to appeal to Albanians, who make up about a quarter of the population, concentrated in the north and west of the country.

They also make up between 10 and 20 per cent of the population of Skopje but these numbers are only approximate as no national census has taken place in years.

Even after its lost power nationally in May, VMRO DPMNE's leader, Nikola Gruevski, continued attacked a new proposed law allowing greater official use of the Albanian language. Gruevski insisted it would be unconstitutional and would undermine national unity.

However, while appearing on an Albanian-language TV station, Alsat, Gruevski earlier this month insisted that he had nothing against Albanians and vowed to work on improving the party's relations with the community.

Meanwhile, Trajanovski's strongest rival, Petre Silegov, from the SDSM, has an advantage when it comes to courting Albanian votes in the capital.

This party has a far better standing among Albanians thanks to its more "civic" approach. In the last general election, the SDSM won at least 40,000 Albanian votes, which was unprecedented for a mainly ethnic Macedonian party.

For the municipal vote, the SDSM has already secured the support in Skopje of the country's strongest ethnic Albanian party, the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI.

The DUI switched sides nationally in May, abandoning its coalition alliance with VMRO DPMNE and forging a new majority in parliament, which brought the SDSM to power.

In return for its support in Skopje, the SDSM has agreed to support DUI candidates in several mainly Albanian municipalities, such as Tetovo, Gostivar and Debar.

"We will build Skopje together, and for everyone, just as we have started building Macedonia," Silegov told ethnic Albanian residents of Saraj, near Skopje on Sunday, asking for their support.

Skopje political Analyst Albert Musliu said the noticeably milder nationalistic rhetoric in this election reflected the very different nature of national and local elections in which different parties must cooperate to win in ethnically mixed areas.

"In many specific municipalities, one or the other ethnic community needs the votes of the others [to win the election]," Musliu noted.

For the purpose of the local elections, Macedonia is divided into 81 municipalities. The prize is, of course, Skopje, which is home to a third of Macedonia's population of about 2 million.

A total of eight mayoral candidates are standing in Skopje but Trajanovski and Silegov are the front runner, backed by the two main parties in the ethnic Macedonian political camp.

The election campaign started on September 25. It closes on October 13 when an electoral silence descends until polling day On October 15[/QUOTE]


And people actually believe DPMNE are going to save the country and protect Macedonians, pfft.

Risto the Great 10-04-2017 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=Liberator of Makedonija;170242]And people actually believe DPMNE are going to save the country and protect Macedonians, [B]pfft[/B].[/QUOTE]

That should be the new Macedonian party name.
Step aside VMRO and SDSM, here comes PFFT

Liberator of Makedonija 10-04-2017 09:58 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;170243]That should be the new Macedonian party name.
Step aside VMRO and SDSM, here comes PFFT[/QUOTE]

Serving the people

Odi Zvezdo 10-04-2017 10:04 PM

[QUOTE=Liberator of Makedonija;170245]Serving the people[/QUOTE]

Just give them the rights and change the name to Shkupi....soon to please them even more they'll change the name of the airport to Aerodom Ali Ahmeti..

Is there anyone in the Fyromian Parliament with a patriotic bone in their body??? They're making the prostitutes in Australia we call politicians look like angels...

Liberator of Makedonija 10-05-2017 12:22 AM

[QUOTE=Odi Zvezdo;170246]Just give them the rights and change the name to Shkupi....soon to please them even more they'll change the name of the airport to Aerodom Ali Ahmeti..

Is there anyone in the Fyromian Parliament with a patriotic bone in their body??? They're making the prostitutes in Australia we call politicians look like angels...[/QUOTE]

Not many politicians that aren't willing to sell out for $$$. Considering that RoM isn't a very wealthy country either it's fair to say pretty much ever polly in parliament is susceptiable to being bought-out.

vicsinad 10-14-2017 08:12 PM

If true, then....well, it wouldn't be shocking. It would be shocking if this was not true.

[QUOTE]Massive Election Fraud in Macedonian town of Kichevo as over 6000 Illegal voters arrive
Sunday, 15 October 2017

Dozens of buses have arrived from multiple countries organized by Macedonia's DUI, the junior partner in the Government led by Zaev.

According to our police sources in Kichevo, confirmed by video evidence, the local police has been ordered to stand down and allow this massive electoral fraud to proceed unimpeded.

Many of the people bused to Kichevo are not Macedonian citizens, but residents of Kosovo who live in Switzerland, Germany etc.

Even Albanian language portal Tetova Sot states that many of these "migrants" as it calles them have no Macedonian identification papers of any kind and have never been to Macedonia before!

So far, over 6,000 illegal voters have arrived, which is 16% of the total population of the city. The numbers will only grow tomorrow as some buses have yet to arrive in the country.

Kichevo has a population of 25,000 residents out of which 17,000 are Macedonians, yet the mayor is ethnic Albanian thanks to the inclusion of the village of Zajas (5,000) within the city's newly expanded borders, and the thousands of illegal voters who arrive during each election cycle.

This massive election fraud is happening in front of the eyes of Macedonian election "monitors" and foreign ones, such as OSCE. [/QUOTE]

[URL="http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/32681/2/"]http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/32681/2/[/URL]

Starling 10-14-2017 08:26 PM

I'd like the names of every single election monitor that's in on this.

Albo 10-15-2017 10:00 AM

Hi all.. I'm backk.. :))
Been away, hope you all didn't miss me too much..

In response to this article.. its a total fabrication and lie.. there is no proof whatsoever that the people who ahve arrived to vote aren't from Kicevo..

It refers to an article from tetovasot.com that doesn't exist..
I've searched the site and these are some of the articles that have been posted regarding the arrival of people to vote!

You will need to use Google translate:

THOUSANDS OF KICOVARAS ARRIVE FOR DEHARI, DEHARI GRERTS THEM WITH TEARS IN HIS EYES!

[url]http://www.tetovasot.com/2017/10/me-mijera-kercovoare-arriten-per-deharin-dehari-i-pret-me-lot-ne-sy-video/[/url]

MINISTER BEKTESHI GREETS 700 EXPATS FROM SWITZERLAND

[url]http://www.tetovasot.com/2017/10/ministri-bekteshi-pret-mbi-700-mergimtare-te-zvicres-per-fatmir-deharin-foto/[/url]

TWO SHIPS ARRIVE IN DURRES FROM ITALY FOR DEHARI

[url]http://www.tetovasot.com/2017/10/dy-anije-arrijne-ne-durres-vijne-mergimtaret-nga-italia-ne-kercove-per-fatmir-deharin/[/url]

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Video of the arrive of some of the kicevo diaspora:

[url]http://kercovanews.com/2017/10/14/arritja-e-mergimtarve-ne-kercove-video/[/url]

[url]http://kercovanews.com/2017/10/14/arrijne-mergata-kercovare-nga-zvicra-video-te-momentit-2/[/url]

Others have arrived on charted flights from around europe and the USA.

maco2envy 10-30-2017 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;170225][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/albanian-mayor-arrested-in-macedonia-vote-fraud-probe/2017/09/27/f684a54c-a3b5-11e7-b573-8ec86cdfe1ed_story.html[/url]

Albanian mayor arrested in Macedonia vote-fraud probe


One word ... CENSUS[/QUOTE]

If I'm not mistaken, Edmond did heavily contribute for the representation of Macedonians in Albania. Arresting this man is a disgrace to the country. I'm sure our yurt dwelling neighbors had advised SDS to this...


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