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Prolet 12-15-2010 05:56 AM

Its no secret at all i've stated it before in my previous posts.

Bill, Its no diplomacy at all its more like the use of force if the laws are broken just like any other normal democratic country.

indigen 12-15-2010 06:39 AM

[QUOTE=Prolet;83125]Its no secret at all i've stated it before in my previous posts.

[B]Bill, Its no diplomacy at all[/B] [COLOR="Red"][B]its more like the use of force if the laws are broken just like any other normal democratic country.[/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Prolet: To me there are two ways to stop the spreading of Albanization in Macedonia, [B]they come [COLOR="Red"]without[/COLOR] the use of force too. [/B][/QUOTE]

Prolet, you just contradicted yourself, yet again!

Prolet 12-15-2010 07:54 AM

Well Indigen, When laws are broken force is used but police cant go in and use force without a reason. We do need a leg to stand on dont we? One things for sure and i think we should all know this, everything the Albanians do inside of Macedonia and even in Kosovo is being monitored by UBK and DBK, those banditi that are walking around armed in Tanushevci are being watched every second.

Niko777 12-15-2010 04:28 PM

[U][COLOR="Red"][B]MACEDONIAN Postal Stamps commemorating national holidays and culture of Albania:[/B][/COLOR][/U]

100th anniversary of the first Albanian school of higher education in Elbasan, Albania

[IMG]http://sinbad.mp.com.mk/stamps/images/523.jpg[/IMG]

100 years from the birth of Filip Shiroka - Famous Albanian poet

[IMG]http://sinbad.mp.com.mk/stamps/images/525.jpg[/IMG]

Rememberance of Eqrem Çabej, national linguist and scholar of Albania:

[IMG]http://sinbad.mp.com.mk/stamps/images/473.jpg[/IMG]

100 years anniversary of the creation of the Albanian Alphabet:

[IMG]http://sinbad.mp.com.mk/stamps/images/486.jpg[/IMG]

Albania's national hero Skenderbeg:

[IMG]http://sinbad.mp.com.mk/stamps/images/346.jpg[/IMG]

Folk Costumes of Albanians:

[IMG]http://sinbad.mp.com.mk/stamps/images/221.jpg[/IMG]

Soldier of Macedon 12-15-2010 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=Bratot;83107]As what concerns for the statement I objected to it's not an isolated case nor recent, it has been subject of disagreement for some longer time already between more members and I'm convinced you are aware of it.[/QUOTE]
Bratot, refer to me to a specific quote you object to, and explain your objection.
[QUOTE]But having said that I do notice that you avoid adressing equally to both sides of the argument and this became a practice somehow.[/QUOTE]
Are you accusing me of bias? Are you pretending to not remember examples where I have had words with Indigen, Vangelovski and co., in cases where where I don't agree with them? Or are you becoming a little paranoid because not everybody has agreed with your approach?

Vangelovski 12-15-2010 06:24 PM

Niko777,

Please keep these coming. I'm currently undertaking some research and your contributions have proved VERY valuable.

Thanks!

Vangelovski 12-15-2010 06:27 PM

SoM,

Bratot objects to terminology such as "slave mentality" because it is "bad manners" and unhelpful to the cause - which one I'm not sure.

Interesting to note that Goce Delcev was also an "unhelpful name-caller" because he often referred to Macedonians as SHEEP, DELUDED COWARDS, WEAK, THICK and so on.

Bratot 12-15-2010 07:34 PM

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;83208]SoM,

Bratot objects to terminology such as "slave mentality" because it is "bad manners" and unhelpful to the cause - which one I'm not sure. [/QUOTE]

Wrong.

I objected the abusive terminology such as calling them Slavs, Vassals, Yugos, Serbomans, servants etc. etc.

[QUOTE]Interesting to note that Goce Delcev was also an "unhelpful name-caller" because he often referred to Macedonians as SHEEP, DELUDED COWARDS, WEAK, THICK and so on. [/QUOTE]

This is not only shallow but shameless effort to justify your name calling.

Delchev adressed these derogative names in his PRIVATE LETTERS, not in PUBLIC speeches or proclamations.

Bratot 12-15-2010 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;83197]Bratot, refer to me to a specific quote you object to, and explain your objection.

Are you accusing me of bias? Are you pretending to not remember examples where I have had words with Indigen, Vangelovski and co., in cases where where I don't agree with them? [/QUOTE]

Refer to me to a specific example where you don't agree with them.


[QUOTE]Or are you becoming a little paranoid because not everybody has agreed with your approach? [/QUOTE]

I haven't seen any official list of who agrees with who, so you could explain what is my 'approach' and provide such list.

Soldier of Macedon 12-15-2010 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=Bratot;83239]Refer to me to a specific example where you don't agree with them.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with all of Vangelovski's views where it concerns gun control, check the relevant thread. I don't agree with all of Indigen's views where it concerns people like Vasil Iljov, check the relevant thread. Do you want more examples?

Now, are you going to answer my request, or inappropriately respond to it with another request of your own?
[QUOTE]I haven't seen any official list of who agrees with who, so you could explain what is my 'approach' and provide such list.[/QUOTE]
What list? What are you talking about? By your 'approach' I am making reference to this 'secret' initiative of yours. And I already explained why Macedonians are tired of 'secrets'.
[QUOTE]I objected the abusive terminology such as calling them Slavs, Vassals, Yugos, Serbomans, servants etc. etc.[/QUOTE]
As a rule, I am against generalisations. However, are you denying that [B][I]there are[/I][/B] vassals and servants of foreign interests in Macedonia at the moment? What's the problem? Would you prefer a 'softer' approach towards these vassals and traitors? How should we refer to them?


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