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Big Bad Sven 01-31-2013 10:31 PM

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;139042]I found Obama's recent speech concerning immigrants in America somewhat pertinent to the thread topic here:

[url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-30/obama-outlines-plan-to-fix-immigration/4490608[/url]


He said something similar in 2008.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K7HfvCDg4E]Obama: Immigrants Should Learn English - YouTube[/url]



Meanwhile in Macedonia........well, read the thread.[/QUOTE]

Im not making excuses for the weak macedonian governments in the past, but, do you think the Jive talking and shucking Obuma would agree with Macedonia saying the same thing to the shiptar minority?

Soldier of Macedon 02-01-2013 03:13 AM

Not sure, but it doesn't really matter what he thinks, and it would be a non-issue if Macedonian governments had integrity.

Vangelovski 02-04-2013 06:06 PM

[B][URL="http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonian-town-gives-honorary-citizenship-to-ramush-haradinaj"][COLOR=black]Macedonia Town Honours Kosovo War Commander[/COLOR][/URL][/B]


[URL="http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonian-town-gives-honorary-citizenship-to-ramush-haradinaj"][URL="http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonian-town-gives-honorary-citizenship-to-ramush-haradinaj"][URL="http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonian-town-gives-honorary-citizenship-to-ramush-haradinaj"][url]http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonian-town-gives-honorary-citizenship-to-ramush-haradinaj[/url][/URL][/URL][/URL]

The Albanian majority on Tetovo’s town council sparked controversy by declaring former Kosovo Liberation Army commander Ramush Haradinaj an honorary citizen.

The town council session that voted to honour Haradinaj was boycotted by nine ethnic Macedonian councillors, but Tetevo’s 19 ethnic Albanian councillors backed the idea unanimously.

One ethnic Macedonian councillor in the north-western town, Miroslav Kocovski, said the move was “unserious and degrading, to say the least”.

The decision on Friday has the potential to further damage the already fragile inter-ethnic relations in Macedonia, where Albanians make up one quarter of the population and in some parts form the majority.

It also has the potential to shake the ethnically-mixed government led by Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski because town councillors from the ruling coalition’s Albanian junior party, the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI, also voted for the motion.

The head of the state secretariat for local government, Vanco Sehtanski, an ethnic Macedonian, said he would “inspect whether the decision was legal”, and annul it if was not.

He said he suspected that it contradicted a rule which states that both main ethnic communities must vote for a motion in order for it to pass.

Ramush Haradinaj is a former commander of the Kosovo Liberation Army that fought Serbian forces during the 1990s conflict, and also a former prime minister.
He was acquitted of committing war crimes during the conflict by the Hague Tribunal last year.

Shortly after the Kosovo war ended, a short armed conflict broke out between Macedonian government forces and ethnic Albanian rebels, which ended with the signing of the Ohrid peace accord that granted more rights to Albanians.

A political crisis also erupted in autumn last year when defence minister Fatmir Besimi, an ethnic Albanian from the DUI, laid flowers at a monument to Albanian guerrillas killed in the 2001 conflict.

The act outraged many Macedonians, and Gruevski's VMRO DPMNE party soon afterwards put forward a draft law on the military that excluded former guerrillas from recieving state pensions, which in turn prompted the DUI to threaten to leave the government.

Risto the Great 02-04-2013 08:23 PM

[QUOTE]It also has the potential to shake the ethnically-mixed government led by Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski because town councillors from the ruling coalition’s Albanian junior party, the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI, also voted for the motion.[/QUOTE]
Ha ha, the DPmNE maggot representing Macedonians in Australia follows the party policy to grant amnesty to the the war criminals. Meanwhile the DUI boys follow their own agenda precisely when it suits them.

Shame on DPmNE for forming a coalition with an enemy of the State.

Other than that, of course ethnic Albanians will honour Albanian terrorists.

George S. 02-04-2013 08:58 PM

Mark my words gruevski will eventually will be forced on his knees honoring the uck monuments etc.Has he ever declared that they are illegal & that they should all be pulled down.Nikola must have a very short memory as to how he has given terrorists who are even blackjlisted full amnesty.Don't worry soon macedonians will be honoring the terrorits whether they like it or not.The elected maggot from australia is nothing but that a maggot that does the bidding of the ruling party.I think for what it is we should all boycott the elections as weren't any better.before & not now.

Gocka 02-05-2013 01:58 PM

What can be said of the latest news about the honorary citizen. I have a few questions that need pondering.

What is the motivation:

I mean why do something so inflammatory, what is the endgame. Either the albanians feel that these people really are their heroes ( which they very well might) or they clearly do it to provoke. The first reason their isn't a need for much analysis. If they think that monster is worthy of praise then that is just a flaw in their character and morality and their is nothing you can do about that. If the intention is to provoke then you must ask why provoke. We know provocation would lead to conflict so then that must mean that their intention is to entice conflict. Clearly if someone wants conflict then they must feel they have something to gain from it, what is it that they hope to gain? I don't know exactly, secession, attention, more "rights".

I do think the key to all this is to figure out what they hope to gain through all this, if you attack that and take that away then all of this would be pointless. Kill the disease don't treat the symptoms. You get rid of the underlying disease and the symptoms go away, and all of this "albanization" is a symptom its not the end game.

Niko777 02-06-2013 03:59 PM

[QUOTE]Macedonia Town Honours Kosovo War Commander[/QUOTE]

It's not the fault of the Albanians, but the state. Why allow such an individual to cross the border in the first place? So the Albanians can have their fun?

lavce pelagonski 02-07-2013 05:16 AM

МЕЃУЕТНИЧКИ ИНЦИДЕНТИ ВО КИЧЕВСКАТА ГИМНАЗИЈА -МВР МОЛЧИ
Среда, 06 Февруари 2013 22:00

Во текот на вчерашниот ден во Кичево , во гимназијата која ги носи имината „Мирко Милески„ и „ДРИТА„ , настанал напад врз три македонски ученици во гимназијата кои биле претепани од соученици од албанските паралеки.

Полицијата била веднаш известена и излегла на лице место. Во теков на денешнив ден според извор на ОхридСкај дошло до нова тепачка , при што од утринските часови се собрале повеќе македонски граѓани на Кичево на протест пред гимназијата поради претепувајњето на тројцата ученици -Македонци. Послем малку време на протест дошле и поголема група на жители -албанци од Кичево и околината кои скандирале -„УЧК - ИЛИРИДА„ ,а упатувале и погрдни зборови кон насобраната група на македонски граѓани. Според изворот полицијата интервенирала со сите свои расположливи моментални сили и успеала да направи тампон зона помеѓу двете групи граѓани и да спречи уште поголем инцидент. До сега званично од МВР во врска со овој инцидент нема никакво соопштение , граѓаните на Кичево предупредуваат на напната атмосфера во градот. Со повеќе информации по соопштението на МВР.
[URL="http://ohridsky.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5713%3A2013-02-06-21-21-42&catid=38%3A2011-04-02-23-33-42&Itemid=121"]http://ohridsky.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5713%3A2013-02-06-21-21-42&catid=38%3A2011-04-02-23-33-42&Itemid=121[/URL]

Niko777 02-08-2013 10:54 AM

[B][COLOR="red"]Albanians in Skopje protesting against the removal of the UCK statue in Preshevo:[/COLOR][/B]

[IMG]http://www.mkd.mk/wp-content/gallery/uck-protest-pred-srpska-ambasada/dsc_5194.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.mkd.mk/wp-content/gallery/uck-protest-pred-srpska-ambasada/mer_2505.jpg[/IMG]

[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="4"][B]Where are the Macedonians to protest the removal of the Rajko Zinzifov and Jane Sandanski statues in Cair? [/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]

MKPrilep 02-11-2013 06:02 AM

[QUOTE]Where are the Macedonians to protest the removal of the Rajko Zinzifov and Jane Sandanski statues in Cair?[/QUOTE]

odi vo kafic, tamu ke gi najdis!!


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