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greek 05-01-2014 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;149799]A fair debate can only be had when you respect our rights and refrain from racist and derogatory language such as "FYROM" and "slav..". Use any term other than Macedonia or Macedonian and your out. End of story.[/QUOTE]
Dude I don't believe the word 'Slav' is in any way racist.
Half of Europe are classed as Slavs ie Croats,Serbs, Bulgarians (all sister languages of yours ) as well as Ukrainians, Russians Poles etc etc etc.
The Greeks have many friends & allies amongst the Slavic peoples....I think we respect them greatly.

Redsun 05-01-2014 08:50 AM

[QUOTE=greek;149800]Yeah sure buddy bad things happen in war....you guys lost a war in Aegean Macedonia when you sided with the Greek commies & paid a big price.
Losing a war has consequences unfortunately.
Hey we have all suffered in wars....Greece lost 10% of its population in WW2 & was the 4TH most destructed country as a result of that conflict.
I guess I can go to the German embassy & burn a few flags but whats the point.
But my comparison stands because people on this thread resent Albanians having schools etc in your country but full on advocate for minority schools in Greece.[/QUOTE]


See how you contradict yourself?

You say Aegean Macedonia in your first sentence above then you call Aegean Macedonia Greece right at the end.

Buddy...

By the way why cant you answer me,

I cant believe you bothered to type this in...

Greek - "But my comparison stands because people on this thread resent Albanians having schools etc in your country but full on advocate for minority schools in Greece."

On what ground does your comparison stand upon "because this thread resents Albanians having schools" that is a stupid answer read what you wrote please.

It doesn't stand for anything your comparison was created in your head, not based on logic but fantasy which you refer to as hypothesizing.

Momce Makedonce 05-01-2014 08:50 AM

[QUOTE=greek;149804]Dude I don't believe the word 'Slav' is in any way racist.
Half of Europe are classed as Slavs ie Croats,Serbs, Bulgarians (all sister languages of yours ) as well as Ukrainians, Russians Poles etc etc etc.
The Greeks have many friends & allies amongst the Slavic peoples....I think we respect them greatly.[/QUOTE] Slavic is a linguistic term, not an ethnicity as you and many others mistake it to be.

Vangelovski 05-01-2014 08:51 AM

[quote=greek;149804]Dude I don't believe the word 'Slav' is in any way racist.
Half of Europe are classed as Slavs ie Croats,Serbs, Bulgarians (all sister languages of yours ) as well as Ukrainians, Russians Poles etc etc etc.
The Greeks have many friends & allies amongst the Slavic peoples....I think we respect them greatly.[/quote]I told you that was the end of the discussion. I couldn't care less what an ignorant and racist fool like yourself thinks. Using 'slav' terminology in relation to the Macedonians is the equivalent of calling an African-American the 'N' word.

You may hold the record for the shortest stay on the forum...but I'd have to check.

Sweet Sixteen 05-01-2014 03:36 PM

[QUOTE=Momce Makedonce;149806]Slavic is a linguistic term, not an ethnicity as you and many others mistake it to be.[/QUOTE]

Well, language is a basic ethnic element; it’s not the only but usually it’s the most important one especially in cases where the origins and identity of a group is questioned and debated. At the moment one of the issues regarding the Muslim minority of Thrace, is whether it should be called Turkish or Turkophone or Turkogenes (“of Turkish descent”).

Also, speaking of Slavs, the Pomaks (part of the Muslim minority) are often described as Slav-speakers or speakers of a Slavic dialect. In my book, that simply means they are Bulgarian Muslims left outside Bulgaria. Just curious, what are they in your book? Greeks? Turks? Bulgarians? Macedonians? Thracians? Slavs?

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;149807]I told you that was the end of the discussion. I couldn't care less what an ignorant and racist fool like yourself thinks. Using 'slav' terminology in relation to the Macedonians is the equivalent of calling an African-American the 'N' word.[/QUOTE]

That is a derogatory opinion towards the Slavs and (in consequence) towards your own people. Of course, as Thucedides would put it, you’re the emperor of your own mind, but… really, are you talking seriously?

Is this an opinion we can find elsewhere besides your personal universe or the small universe of this forum? Can you provide some info or links? Also, do you think you can discuss this (without exploding or banning everyone), or move this to a relevant thread or create one?

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George S. 05-01-2014 03:40 PM

i call them population exchange fodder.THey were used to displace the majority of people who were Macedonians in the Aegean area.The greeks were only 10% of the population.
Greek you are just a smart arsed derogarotory greek I would ban you.You are just pushing the limits of your insults.Don't worry yourself if the Albanians take over us.The civilians can be armed to do their duty.Just like the vermin they are so are you to question us.When in 1913 you stole our land.Does that make you a better greek.IN my view you are much lower than the Albanians for you have not given Macedonians their human rights.You need a reality check as morons like you can't even recognize your governments sham of trying to create a fake Macedonian greek Macedonian no such thing exists.Or should I say the fake exists and we are the real Macedonians.You show total disrespect just like your govt .Why because you have been indoctrinated to do that .In other words you are BRAINWASHED.

George S. 05-01-2014 03:51 PM

ss your govt should desist putting labels on people as they desrve to call themselves as what they really are.Self identityis the key here.Whatever they are they desrve to call themselves whatever they want.Stop labelling people as slavophones,Slavs etc.What do books show people are called simply Macedonians.The last govt that should be allowed to call people & even to rename them as fyrom etc.Why it stole their land & now wants to steal their identity.Identity theft.

George S. 05-01-2014 03:59 PM

greek there are no Slavic people Its your govt using derogatory & propaganistic labels .A court of law in Victoria has determined that the slav word to describe Macedonians as SLAVS,slavic Slavophones is really DEROGOTARY & IS RACIST.Macedonians are just that Macedonians they are not slavs.Think about it if you are moronic & don't accept that is because you are a puppet of your govt.AS I have many times that Greece only wants to monopolise the name or anything Macedonian to legitimise their land grab in 1913.Calling us Macedonians slavs is your govts piss weak at best it cannot really stand to the rule of law let alone to pass the self identity test.You sound like a hybrid mongrel which is not further from the truth & a racist to boot.

Sweet Sixteen 05-01-2014 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=George S.;149813]A court of law in Victoria has determined that the slav word to describe Macedonians as SLAVS,slavic Slavophones is really DEROGOTARY & IS RACIST.[/QUOTE]

I've read this before here, searched and didn't manage to verify it. Can you give as a link or more info?

I mean what you wrote is not what this link says.

[URL="http://www.macedonianhr.org.au/wip/images/stories/pdf/skopian_case.pdf"]http://www.macedonianhr.org.au/wip/images/stories/pdf/skopian_case.pdf[/URL]

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George S. 05-01-2014 04:37 PM

Its in the previous AMHR review & mentions the Victorian court decision.Your govt tried to influence the govt in Australia to l;abel us with the slav prefix that is obvious what it tried to do.The court decided that the slav word as derogoratory & racist.Nothing changes SS you are still a bunch of morons in denial of their neighbour.Where is your govt heading.It doesn't respect Macedonia at all.Even if we got constitutional guarantees your govt is scared of little Macedonia.It might spill the beans on what is going on in Greece.Remember greeks don't recognize Macedonians. as Macedonians.Also your govt was instrumental in telling the world that Greece is Macedonia & Macedonia is greek.How detached ist it from the truth your just a MOron SS & your statements echo your govt wgo is really bereft of any decency.It doesn't give hbasic human rights to its minority the Macedonians.Don't try & cover up for your govt's atrocities on the Macedonians they are well documented.Stop pretending that everything is allright ingreece when its not.Also I don't know what you are trying to prove hiding under a number of accounts.Your current escapade is not proving anything but hate & racism for the Macedonians & anything Macedonian on this forum.We hate people who hate us obviously you are our enemy & you stand condemned for the attrocties your govt has committed on the Macedonians.You have shown no remorse for what your govt did to the Macedonians & you never will because you are a bunch of morns in denial might I add with no moral decency.So I leave it to the admin as I don't want to discuss things with a fake person stop npretending as if we are accountable to you.ALSO don't underestimate our weakness for that's where we get our strength from don't think you can kick us whil'st were down.


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