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Soldier of Macedon 12-28-2011 10:30 PM

That is quite disgusting. In the article it says:
[QUOTE]In addition, the report found that 95 percent of children trafficked belong to the Roma ethnic minority or the “Egyptian” community.[/QUOTE]
So it doesn't look like it is just an Albanian problem.

Valmir 12-30-2011 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=George S.;117571]Whils't i was in 2006 in macedonia there has a taxist who was albanian .He said he can get anything on the black market.A car that was selling for 30000euros they could get for 160000 euros.Perfect for the taxi trade.They said they were making a motza out of the taxi trade & keeping the money within the albanian community.He said albanians are buying shops all over macedonia pretty soon they 'll want autonomy.The albanians are smart if they need an electrician etc builder,they get an albanian they never use a macedonian for anything as they will let you down.Won't be soon they will take over.
The albanian attitude is a go getter attitude & the macedonian one is a do nothing lazy attitude.They couldn't be bothered .Whils't all that is going the albanians are taking over.[/QUOTE]

Dont worry cus we(Albanians) say the same things about Macedonians
We see you as people that never pay an Albanian to do a job, You always go to Macedonians for shopping and everything.

Valmir 12-30-2011 12:33 PM

[QUOTE=Volk;117576]Few important points left out, where is all the money coming from to build these things?

Drugs and prostitution, if your so envious start dealing and sell your daughters to become prostitutes in Italy, then you can be soo proud you moron! :cursing:[/QUOTE]

Never, These money is coming from the Albanian Diaspora, They work hard and make money and a good percent of the money comes in Macedonia, Just like Jewish diaspora!

Valmir 12-30-2011 12:37 PM

[QUOTE]Is it? do you personally know albanians? I can say with 100% certainty that every single albanian family is connected to organised crime. [/QUOTE]
Oh comon man :(,There are much bigger mafias that the Albanian one, for example Serbians are much connected to the crime but the Albanian mafia is more exposed to the Media ;)

[QUOTE]Yes they do give there family money, something most Macedonians dont do... Out of 7 children they send as many as possible in western countries, where the kids then get involved in organised crime and send money back to the head of the family in the country of origin.[/QUOTE]
Actally those childrens work hard and make money and they dont work with organised crime!

[QUOTE]15 years ago albanians where selling there daughters in albania for 100-200Euros to be prostitutes in Italy, this is documented, HELLOO??[/QUOTE]
First time i heard this, Albanians would prefer to kill their childrens than to sell them for money!

[QUOTE]Where do you think the money came for the UCK and NLA? its was all drugs and prostitution, do a simple google search and educate yourself before you use albanians as an example of how Macedonians should be![/QUOTE]
Money came from the Albanian Diaspora, At the time of the war Albanians opened a Organisation called "Atdheu Therret" which means Fatherland Calls and every Albanian in Diaspora had to give money!(As much as they can).

Risto the Great 12-30-2011 01:37 PM

Hi Valmir, I am positive every Albanian is not a criminal. I am equally positive a great deal of funding for the Albanian terrorists came from illegal means. Do you think funds gained from illegal activities are justified at times of war? Do you think the Framework Agreement in Macedonia has created a reverse discrimination situation for the ethnic Albanians of Macedonia?

The trafficking of human organs in Kosovo is quite well documented no matter how hard it has been tried to be swept under carpets. What are your thoughts on this matter?

[url]http://macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4949[/url]

Valmir 12-30-2011 02:02 PM

[QUOTE]The trafficking of human organs in Kosovo is quite well documented no matter how hard it has been tried to be swept under carpets. What are your thoughts on this matter?[/QUOTE]
Documented?
Sorry but i haven't seen even "ONE FACT" from serbian side on this issue ;)
NOT EVEN ONE IMAGE,NOT EVEN ONE MAN CLAIMING THIS TO BE TRUE!
I have a video where Serbian agents offer money to one Albanian just to Accept to say all what they teach him!
But those agents got caught by Albanian Security Agency.

Watch:
[QUOTE][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGYqdvyRXy0]Serb agents arrested by K.Police, on "organ harvest" propaganda - YouTube[/url][/QUOTE]

George S. 12-30-2011 02:48 PM

Valmir that is in total ignorance you know how many businesses that are alnanian & make nig money that's in cold hard cash & avoid paiying taxes.Also the black economy in macedonia is big business. so much corruption goes around.Someone like the albanians is making big money.Also not only they trafficking children but they are traficking women for prostitution in europe.
i remember one man as seen on kosovo was selling one of his kidneys for 25,000 euros.That goes on all the time.The thing that got me was the criminal element is involved.There is a lot of money to be made.

julie 12-30-2011 03:42 PM

[QUOTE=Volk;117587]Have a look here: [URL="http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Albania.htm"]http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Albania.htm[/URL]

quite revolting at the disregard they have for human life[/QUOTE]

"The Whistleblower" is a movie currently being shown about a US woman who exposed the UN involvement in young teenaged underage females being trafficked, sold, kidnapped into slavery and a life of prostitution for the entertainment of UN peacekeepers.
She is now living in exile with her daughter in Europe.
I had never cried so much and dont recommend this movie, all factual , to any females on this forum
Thank you for that link Volk. Females born into these families are sold and live a short life of hell

Vangelovski 12-30-2011 04:02 PM

Valmir,

You may want to read this report. Or you may not - that way you can continue to claim that YOU have not seen any evidence of organ trading:

[URL]http://assembly.coe.int/ASP/APFeaturesManager/defaultArtSiteView.asp?ID=964[/URL]

Here's a quick google search for further reading:

[url]http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&cp=13&gs_id=28&xhr=t&q=kosovo+organs&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&biw=1120&bih=634&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=kosovo+organs&aq=0&aqi=g1g-v3&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=440660d03c957758[/url]

EgejskaMakedonia 12-30-2011 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=Valmir;117606]Dont worry cus we(Albanians) say the same things about Macedonians
We see you as people that never pay an Albanian to do a job, You always go to Macedonians for shopping and everything.[/QUOTE]

Maybe because they live in Macedonia? Obviously they will go to Macedonians for most of their requirements. The Albanian minority should be expected to conform to some degree and integrate into society. Of course they must maintain their culture and language, but how is it asking for too much for a minority to respect, appreciate and recognise the country they live in?
The majority of Albanians don't do this, therefore this segregation between different groups in Macedonia is primarily their fault, regardless of how you try to portray the Albanians as some sort of 'victims.'


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