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Valmir 03-07-2012 05:19 PM

[QUOTE=Niko777;122302]On average 3 or 4 per month in the last 3 months.[/QUOTE]

We never touched a church till you made those jokes in your Carnivals.

Mygdon 03-07-2012 05:35 PM

[QUOTE=Valmir;122306]We never touched a church till you made those jokes in your Carnivals.[/QUOTE]

as if those "carnival jokes" were explicitly directed at Albanians.

Vangelovski 03-07-2012 05:42 PM

[quote=Valmir;122306]We never touched a church till you made those jokes in your Carnivals.[/quote]Valmir, has your village ever heard of free speach? What about the term 'get over it'? They're important concepts, you should look into them and then tell your friends about them.

Risto the Great 03-07-2012 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=Valmir;122306]We never touched a church till you made those jokes in your Carnivals.[/QUOTE]
Actually, you "touched" them a whole lot before that.

Risto the Great 03-07-2012 06:08 PM

[QUOTE=Valmir;122300]Even if we had more rights than the Macedonians, we dont really care about Macedonia, we are working on the Greater Albania Project bro or you forgot it?[/QUOTE]
I hope you're joking. Because this is why there should be a war in Macedonia.

chentovist 03-07-2012 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;122315]I hope you're joking. Because this is why there should be a war in Macedonia.[/QUOTE]

Whether he's joking or not, this is the reality of the situation. All Macedonians and Macedonian politicians need to keep this in the back of their minds. We need to be prepared for the coming war.

Niko777 03-07-2012 06:22 PM

[QUOTE]Even if we had more rights than the Macedonians, we dont really care about Macedonia, we are working on the Greater Albania Project bro or you forgot it?
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Valmir please explain your statement, are you saying that you are working to destabilize Macedonia to create a greater Albania?

Niko777 03-07-2012 06:34 PM

[B][COLOR="Red"]Skopje Mulls Call For Albanian Street Names
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[QUOTE]Written by: Balkan Insight

March 6, 2012


By Sinisa Jakov Marusic

[B]If ethnic Albanian parties in Macedonia get their way, the capital may soon get its first batch of streets renamed after Albanian heroes.[/B]

[B]Authorities in Skopje have started evaluating proposals from Macedonia’s two largest Albanian parties to [U]rename about 50 streets in the capital[/U] after ethnic Albanian heroes.[/B]

The proposals come from the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI, which is part of the centre-right government, and the opposition Democratic Party of Albanians, DPA.

Albanians make up about a quarter of country’s population and about the same proportion of the population of Skopje.

[B]Streets named after the 15th-century Albanian warrior George Kastrioti Skanderbeg, the writer Ismail Kadare, former Albanian Prime Minister Hasan Prishtina and the 19th-century Albanian revolutionary Dervish Cara [U]are likely to be approved by the city council[/U], sources in the DUI told Balkan Insight.[/B]

[B]There have also been proposals to name streets after the Albanian capital, Tirana, and the Kosovo capital, Prishtina.[/B]

[B][U]“It is high time that street names started to reflect reality in the capital,” a DUI member of the city council said.[/U][/B]

Macedonia’s main ruling party, VMRO DPMNE, remains cagey about whether it will back the changes. This party holds a majority on the city council.

“I’m only hearing for the first time that we have agreed to change street names,” the coordinator of the VMRO DPMNE caucus on the council, Dafinka Sazdova, said.

Unofficially, the renaming of Skopje streets for the first time in two decades is part of a wider bid to refresh Skopje’s old odonyms that mainly date from the Socialist era. VMRO DPMNE and DUI officials say a list of about 1,000 new street names is in the pipeline.

Violeta Ackovska, history professor at Skopje state university, says changing the names is a natural process. “History in the Balkans is turbulent and each change in the political system brings its own heroes,” she noted.

But she urges caution, saying a consensus needs to be reached that the person chosen for the honour has played a positive role in the country’s history.

In 2001 Macedonia saw an armed conflict between Albanian insurgents and Macedonian security forces. The conflict ended the same year with a peace accord that guaranteed greater tights to Albanians.

[B]As part of the deal, Skopje altered its street signs to include names written in Albanian. [/B]But the actual street names have remained unchanged from the Yugoslav era.

The last attempt to rename some 40 streets in Skopje happened in 1993, shortly after Macedonia became independent. However, the Constitutional Court annulled this move.

As a result, Skopje’s central square which then was renamed “Macedonia”, is still formally named after former Yugoslav leader Marshal Tito.

[url]http://www.eurasiareview.com/06032012-skopje-mulls-call-for-albanian-street-names/[/url]
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Brian 03-07-2012 06:42 PM

[QUOTE]NO Albanians were being hurt or prevented to speak their language or practice their religion.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Valmir;122290]This takes too much discussion boy ;)[/QUOTE]

LOL.
Are you seriously saying prior to 2001 Albanians were prevented from practising their religion or speaking their language??? Where?

Did you not have Albanian as a language in state schools?

It doesn't sound very oppressive to me.LOL

IF you mean could you speak Albanian in parliament or council offices or shops to anyone, then you are right. But WHY should you???

In Australia or just about any country there is 1 language used by everyone for official uses and in Macedonia that language is Macedonian. Ahhh, but Albanians are supposed to be 25% of the population (disputed anyway, more like 16-17%). And so what? That means 75% do not speak Albanian, so why should 3 out of every 4 people have to learn Albanian just for you. Now maybe if you were 50%?

If it is a minority language and your are supported by the state to learn it in state schools why does it need to be used in Maths, Geography, History, ect classes?

So why did we need a war? Could not greater use of the language be something that could be negotiated particularly for school which have a heavy majority of Albanians?

Does Albanian have to be used in parliament?

Do we need a law that specifically says the Albanians have to approve any new law or it doesn't pass - do you realise that by this you value 1 Albanian vote equal to 3 none Albanian votes thus devaluing everyone else's vote by 2/3. Why should you have this special right? Why shouldn't other peoples vote be equal to 1 vote like the Albanians? You don't want equality rights you want superiority rights and that is discrimination in itself! Show me another country where this happens.

Brian 03-07-2012 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=Valmir;122292]Every World MAFIA does these things, but the bad thing is that western medias are exposing the Albanian mafia more than others.
If you didn't know before: The Russian mafia even works with Nuclear weapons ;)[/QUOTE]

Valmir other mafias do this stuff but you get a special mention for doing more by the EU not the Western media.


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