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TrueMacedonian 09-21-2009 08:50 PM

Bishop Athnasie of Ohrid, Revolutionary Leader
 
[IMG]http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/truemacedonian/Miscellanius%20Mak%20Stuff/balkanrevolutionary13.jpg[/IMG]

Soldier of Macedon 09-21-2009 09:50 PM

Interesting figure, we should delve further, you have a knack for bringing up these figures that have been buried in history, keep up the excellent work TM.

TrueMacedonian 09-22-2009 07:27 AM

Bishop Atanas or Athanasie or Athanasius, as we shall see, was not just a leader for the Macedonians but also an instigator of the Albanian tribes nearby. Here's what I mean;

[IMG]http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/truemacedonian/laranzzo.png[/IMG]
page 96
[IMG]http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/truemacedonian/Miscellanius%20Mak%20Stuff/laranzzo96.png[/IMG]

If we take these two sources into account then we can say that Atanas or Athanasius was a Christian Revolutionary leader who's central plan was to cause widespread disruptions and uprisings in not just Macedonia but the Balkans themselves. So I agree with what Djordjevic and Galati wrote. Bishop Athanasie submitted planS for diversionary revolutionary action in the Balkans.

TrueMacedonian 09-22-2009 07:29 AM

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;23251]Interesting figure, we should delve further, you have a knack for bringing up these figures that have been buried in history, keep up the excellent work TM.[/QUOTE]

Thanks SoM. I hope to find more on this Revolutionary Bishop. I have a very strange feeling that somehow stories about him influenced a young Karposh that same century.

Soldier of Macedon 09-22-2009 07:49 AM

One way or another it all connects mate, it is all Macedonian history, fragmented as it is, it is nevertheless coming together.

indigen 09-22-2009 11:52 PM

Some decent info can be found on page 103-4 of "Macedonia - Its People and History" by Stoyan Pribichevich , 1982.

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=from+spain+and+venice+athanasius#search_anchor[/url]

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=in+1596#search_anchor[/url]

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=rudolph+II#search_anchor[/url]

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=pope+clement+1611#search_anchor[/url]

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=fight+the+turks+spain#search_anchor[/url]

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=1619+a+coalition#search_anchor[/url]

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I have a feeling the below Usenet post is sourced from Pribichevich
(via a Al Donski translation).

The archbishop of Ohrid, Athanasius, in 1596 went to request assistance from
the Italian, Spanish and Austrian rulers. In his record he states:

" ...When we passed through Serbia, Bosnia, Dalmatia, Montenegro and lower
Macedonia, Greece, Thrace, Bulgaria and generally everywhere where holds and
rules the Turk in Europe, and since evaluated and saw everything, we were
left puzzled, how (it is possible) in those kingdoms, in which the
christians outnumber the Turks, the latter ones to hold such places
(territories), more so when the mountains and the narrow passes, as well as
some fortresses, are held by the christians and the subservience of these
(christians) towards the rulers (Turks) is almost non existent.... And this
I recommended, when from N.V. I receive 5 or 6 thousand infantry from the
Spanish and the Italian nationalities, weapons and munition of 15,000
people, saddles for 4000 horses, in a short time I will deliver MACEDONIA
under his rule and administration... Some more, after this undertaking is
achieved, the whole of Bosnia, Dalmatia, BULGARIA and GRECIA will without
any doubt take up arms against the Turk."

TrueMacedonian 09-23-2009 07:53 AM

[QUOTE=indigen;23378]Some decent info can be found on page 103-4 of "Macedonia - Its People and History" by Stoyan Pribichevich , 1982.

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=from+spain+and+venice+athanasius#search_anchor[/url]

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=in+1596#search_anchor[/url]

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=rudolph+II#search_anchor[/url]

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=pope+clement+1611#search_anchor[/url]

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=fight+the+turks+spain#search_anchor[/url]

[url]http://books.google.com.au/books?id=G2O5AAAAIAAJ&dq=stoyan+pribichevich+macedonia&q=1619+a+coalition#search_anchor[/url]

--------------

I have a feeling the below Usenet post is sourced from Pribichevich
(via a Al Donski translation).

The archbishop of Ohrid, Athanasius, in 1596 went to request assistance from
the Italian, Spanish and Austrian rulers. In his record he states:

" ...When we passed through Serbia, Bosnia, Dalmatia, Montenegro and lower
Macedonia, Greece, Thrace, Bulgaria and generally everywhere where holds and
rules the Turk in Europe, and since evaluated and saw everything, we were
left puzzled, how (it is possible) in those kingdoms, in which the
christians outnumber the Turks, the latter ones to hold such places
(territories), more so when the mountains and the narrow passes, as well as
some fortresses, are held by the christians and the subservience of these
(christians) towards the rulers (Turks) is almost non existent.... And this
I recommended, when from N.V. I receive 5 or 6 thousand infantry from the
Spanish and the Italian nationalities, weapons and munition of 15,000
people, saddles for 4000 horses, in a short time I will deliver MACEDONIA
under his rule and administration... Some more, after this undertaking is
achieved, the whole of Bosnia, Dalmatia, BULGARIA and GRECIA will without
any doubt take up arms against the Turk."[/QUOTE]

This is excellent brat. Fala :macedonia

TrueMacedonian 10-08-2009 07:15 PM

Here's the book by Stoyan Pribichevich (Macedonia;it's people and history) that indigen had posted clips of.

[IMG]http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/truemacedonian/Miscellanius%20Mak%20Stuff/pribichevich103.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/truemacedonian/Miscellanius%20Mak%20Stuff/pribichevich104.jpg[/IMG]

TrueMacedonian 10-08-2009 07:16 PM

He was a revolutionary Christian trying to free not just Macedonia but all the Balkans from the Turk. He even offered Macedonia to Spain in return for help. It just shows the desperate situation the christians must have been in under the Ottoman yoke.


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