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  • Liberator of Makedonija
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 1595

    #2
    What will, if anything, change though?
    I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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    • kompir
      Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 537

      #3
      Nothing except Zaev is booking flights to Switzerland.
      Доста бе Вегето една, во секоја манџа се мешаш

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      • Carlin
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 3332

        #4
        Negotiations between VMRO-DPMNE and opposition parties to form a new parliamentary majority ended successfully. The news about the new deployment of forces in the Parliament was announced by the VMRO-DPMNE leader Hristijan Mickoski.

        A new future is coming, a new time and a new hope. Strong challenges await us, aware and grateful for the support, we will succeed together. Macedonia will succeed! We have a new parliamentary majority, announced VMRO-DPMNE leader, Hristijan Mickoski.

        With the announcement for the new parliamentary majority, Mickoski published photos from the meeting in which, in addition to the current coalition partners of VMRO-DPMNE, Alliance and Alternative, the political parties Levica and Besa also participated.


        ВМРО-ДПМНЕ уште вечерва пишува Барање за доверба на Владарта откако лидерот на ВМРО-ДПМНЕ Христијан Мицкоски објави на Фејсбук страната дека […]

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        • Liberator of Makedonija
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 1595

          #5
          So much for Levica never forming a coaliton with DPMNE
          I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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          • Carlin
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 3332

            #6
            I'm not gonna lie, seeing Apasiev with the likes of Besa / Alliance was jarring lol.

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            • Carlin
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 3332

              #7
              Еден од 12-те пратеници на коалицијата меѓу Алијанса за Албанците и Алтернатива се очекува да го повлече потписот од иницијативата за изгласување на недоверба на владата, која ја најавија челниците на ААА заедно со ВМРО-ДПМНЕ, Беса и Левица. -Не измамија, ќе го повлечам потписот - рекол за ТВ 21


              порталот Журнал објави дека пратеникот и генерален секретар на Алтернатива, Скендер Реџепи-Зејд, нема да го поддржи новото парламентарно мнозинство, бидејќи во неа е Левица на Димитар Апасиев.

              Агенцијата, повикувајќи се на партиски извори, објавува дека Реџепи е категорично против соработка со Апасиев поради неговите антизападни ставови и поради противењето кон Договорот од Преспа и Охридскиот договор.

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              • Carlin
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 3332

                #8
                DUI cadre threatens war



                Шкодране Дардишта од ДУИ се заканува, сѐ уште ги имаме чизмите на таван

                Директорката во Клиничкиот центар во Скопје и актуелен член на Управниот одбор на Македонски телеком Шкодране Дардишта, членка на ДУИ, на својот фејсбук-профил, очигледно незадоволна од развојот на настаните на политичката сцена во Македонија отворено се закани со војна.

                „Сѐ уште ги имаме чизмите на таван во старата куќа, за час ги вадиме белите патики. Ние не сме сираци, ние сме никнале после војна. Не играјте со оган, затоа што на крај сами ќе изгорите во него.“

                Борис Крмов, пратеникот на Левица реагираше на својот фејсбук-профил: „Шкодране Дардишта кадар на ДУИ се заканува со војна ако на нејзината партија не ѝ се дозволи да продолжи да ја силува државата! Ама ова во нашиот политички дискурс е потполно легитимно за разлика од фашизмот и нацизмот на Левица нели!?“
                Last edited by Carlin; 11-06-2021, 05:27 PM.

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                • Soldier of Macedon
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 13670

                  #9
                  Don't expect much to change. For the political class in Macedonia, the treacherous concessions over the past few years are treated as the removal of pieces (i.e., obstacles) from a chessboard. This traitor is only jumping ship because he wasn't able to finish the game quick enough and obtain a firm accession date. Even if DPNE manage to form a new government, rest assured, the paramount objective of EU membership, at all costs, remains the same. The fact is, Mickoski and co. are grateful to Zaev, who "opened the path" for them by taking the reputational hit and doing the dirty work they quietly cheered on but were too scared to do themselves, not for fear of the act itself, but for fear of losing their voter base. They can now purport to be free from guilt whilst hypocritically validating the deeds of their predecessor, à la DPNE vs SDS from the '90s.

                  Be under no illusion, Mickoski and co. will most certainly honour the fundamentals of the name-change agreement with Greece. Judging by their sycophantic worship of certain steppe-nostalgic politicians, they will also continue the current "negotiations" with Bulgaria in one form or another, especially if it furthers their primary goal. Not to mention anything about the unwarranted and disproportionate privileges afforded to ethnic Albanians. They will compromise on Macedonia, but not on their quest for that EU money. DPNE is hoping to ride back into power through an alliance with irredentist parties that would celebrate the death of the Macedonian republic and a leftist party that has divergent perspectives on Macedonian heritage. It doesn't take a genius to notice that one of the few positives in this whole fiasco, aside from the worst traitor in recent Macedonian history recusing himself, is the possibility that DUI will finally be excluded from governing the country.
                  In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                  • Soldier of Macedon
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13670

                    #10
                    Perhaps DPNE played their card too early. It's all redundant anyway. One maggot or the other, nothing changes. The northadonian circus continues.
                    https://apnews.com/article/european-...52edfdbaf30c59

                    Mickoski secured the support of 61 of parliament’s 120 lawmakers to bring a no-confidence motion to a vote. If all 61 also vote in favor of the motion Thursday, it would lead to the ouster of the government. Mickoski has said if his motion is successful, he will try to form a government himself, or request early elections if he fails. However, his slim majority of one vote was challenged after a lawmaker who had initially supported the no confidence motion indicated he was no longer in favor. It was unclear how the lawmaker would vote. The 47-year-old Zaev, who has said he opposes holding early elections, said he would remain in office for “a short time” while political negotiations take place. He has said the governing coalition could pick a new prime minister to replace him without the need for a new general election.
                    https://www.rferl.org/a/macedonia-za.../31554953.html

                    Zoran Zaev, who announced he would step down following his party's poor results in local elections last month, says he will stay on in the job until the political situation stabilizes. Zaev made the announcement late on November 9 following a meeting of his Social Democratic Union's (SDSM) leadership, after opposition parties led by the right-wing VMRO-DPMNE filed a no-confidence motion in the government. "I expect the parliamentary majority to stabilize, especially the majority that is for the EU, for a multiethnic society," he said. It was not clear how long his resignation would be postponed. The 120-seat parliament is scheduled to vote on the motion of no confidence in the government on November 11. VMRO-DPMNE has said that it and other opposition parties have secured the 61 votes in the legislature to bring down the government, while the ruling SDSM insists it will try to hold on to the support of at least 62 lawmakers. If the motion passes, President Stevo Pendarovski will have to appoint another politician who can command a majority in parliament to form a new government. On October 31, Zaev announced he would step down both as prime minister and SDSM leader after his center-left party suffered a defeat in mayoral elections, including in the capital, Skopje. But he insisted that the majority in parliament should continue until the next regular elections set for 2024.
                    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                    • Liberator of Makedonija
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1595

                      #11
                      AA/A already looking at better options
                      I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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                      • Carlin
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 3332

                        #12
                        Political theatre of the absurd!

                        The vote of non-confidence fell apart. Zaev and co. did not enter the parliament at all. Bilal Kasami, leader of the BESA party whose MP went "missing", says he suspects he was kidnapped to prevent him to vote! So, we are left with "60-60" split.


                        EU not 'indicating' there was a diplomat who called Kastriot Rexhepi to persuade him not to come to Parliament:
                        Last edited by Carlin; 11-11-2021, 10:48 AM.

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                        • Carlin
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 3332

                          #13
                          Alternative will lead health, information society and diaspora (what is информатичко општество??)


                          Zaev and Gashi set to sign the program after Alternative decided to join the Government



                          Prime Minister Zoran Zaev and Alternative leader Afrim Gashi are set to sign the program for joint action after the party decided to joint the Government and the parliamentary majority. Zaev and Gashi are expected to officially announce which departments Alternative will take over.

                          The decision for joining the government was reached Saturday evening by the Central Council, the party’s top body.

                          At the session, the party leader Afrim Gashi informed about the course of the negotiations with Zaev so far and the program points that have been agreed, as well as about the undertaken obligations.

                          According to party spokesperson Orhan Murtezani, the reason for Alternative joining the government is the historic moment for the opening of EU membership talks and the resolving of the dispute with Bulgaria as goals of the state, but also of the Albanians, because that will open the way for European integration of the entire region.

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                          • Carlin
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 3332

                            #14
                            Orhan Murtezani, spokesperson for DUI’s sister party, the Alternative party, told a news conference tonight that the party decided to join the current parliamentary majority and the government.

                            This is the decision from the meeting of the Central Council of Alternative, made after three meetings of Alternative leader, Afrim Gashi with the resigned Prime Minister and SDSM leader Zoran Zaev, where they discussed Alternative’s participation in the Government and their four MPs supporting the parliamentary majority.

                            Murtezani informed that all agreed points will be officially signed tomorrow by the two leaders of the parties, Zaev and Gashi.

                            MINA finds, Gashi will receive 3 Ministerial positions (Health, Informatics, Diaspora), three deputy Ministers and 47 directorial positions at Government institutions, among which are (MEPSO, Hospitals, Railways, Prisons, Libraries, Theaters, Archives, Police, the Postal Service, Roads etc.)

                            Orhan Murtezani, spokesperson for DUI's sister party, the Alternative party, told a news conference tonight that the party decided to join the current parliamentary majority and the government.

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                            • Carlin
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 3332

                              #15
                              Still some details to work out but with the major concessions Zaev was forced to make to the Alternative party (including giving them the Health Minister run by Filipce), we are close to having equal number of Albanians and Macedonians in the Government.

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