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  • Brian
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    • Oct 2011
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    Politics and elections in France

    With the French presidential elections due on 22 Apr and 06 May 2012, I was wondering, are there any members who are from France and can they shed some light if "National Front" presidential candidate, Jean-Marie Le Penn,



    would be any more favourable towards Macedonia, seeing she is for French sovereignty, getting out of the Euro, and expelling migrants?

    Her now rise to 20% in polls puts her close to Sarkozy's 24% and Hollande's 27.5% making her a real contender.

    Likewise, does anyone know Hollande's position on Macedonia?

    How do you feel about any of the contenders?

    France’s Le Pen Gains Voter Support as Sarkozy, Hollande Stall



    Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Marine Le Pen, leader of France’s anti-euro National Front, is gaining support as backing for President Nicolas Sarkozy and Socialist candidate Francois Hollande stalls, an Ifop poll showed.

    About 20 percent would back Le Pen if an election were held now, up from 19 percent a month ago and 17 percent in October, according to an Ifop poll for Le Journal du Dimanche published today. Support for Sarkozy has dropped to 24 percent from 26 percent a month ago and backing for Hollande has declined to 27.5 percent from 32.5 percent, the poll showed.

    The results suggest that both the leading candidates suffered after Francois Bayrou and Dominique de Villepin declared their intentions to seek the presidency. The 2012 election consists of two rounds, with the two leading candidates from balloting in April 22 holding a face-off May 6.

    Voting intentions for the second round were unchanged, with Hollande holding at 56 percent support and Sarkozy 44 percent, Ifop said.

    Ifop interviewed 937 voters between Dec. 13 and 15. The margin of error for the results on the three leading candidates is between 2 and 3 percentage points, it said.

    A separate Ipsos poll for Le Monde daily showed Hollande would win the first round with 32 percent, down 3 percentage points from a month earlier. Sarkozy would gather 25.5 percent, up 1.5 points and Le Pen would get 17 percent, down 2 points. The pollster called 5,415 registered voters between Nov. 30 and Dec. 5 and didn’t publish margins of error.
  • DirtyCodingHabitz
    Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 835

    #2
    She's the only legit candidate, the rest of them are sheeple herders.

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    • Soldier of Macedon
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 13670

      #3


      France's far right leader Le Pen tries revive campaign
      French far-right leader Marine Le Pen sought to revive her flagging presidential campaign on Saturday, saying she was the only genuine opposition to the established parties whose policies would lead France into a Greek-style tragedy.

      Le Pen, who replaced her father as head of the National Front last year, has sought to broaden the appeal of the party beyond its traditional anti-immigrant constituency to attract a younger generation of voters.

      She ranks third in opinion polls with just two months to go before the first round of the election on April 22.

      At one point in January she was just a couple of points behind conservative President Nicolas Sarkozy, but has fallen back in recent weeks.

      "The campaign has truly started," Le Pen told reporters at the start of the National Front's annual congress in the northern city of Lille.

      "We must kick out those parties that have brought us to our knees.

      I am the only opposition to the UMPS (Sarkozy's UMP and Francois Hollande's Socialist Party).

      Those are candidates of the (Greek) troika and we cannot turn to them."

      Le Pen announced a raft of policies in January to balance France's books, including taxing imports, tapping the central bank for cheap loans instead of debt markets and giving French citizens priority over foreigners for jobs.

      Her anti-euro and protectionist stance has struck a chord, especially among working class voters disillusioned by economic hardship since the start of the global financial crisis.

      But most analysts deem her economic programme as not credible.

      Le Pen criticised the troika - the International Monetary Fund, the European Union and the European Central Bank - which has demanded Greece impose austerity measures in return for bailout funds.

      "The troika unites the European Commission, the Central Bank and the IMF against the people," she said.
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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      • DirtyCodingHabitz
        Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 835

        #4
        I hope she wins in France .

        Jean-Marie Le Penn, Nigel Farage and Ron Paul all the way!

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        • Brian
          Banned
          • Oct 2011
          • 1130

          #5
          Le Pen looks like winning. Her gains in the polls have secured her run for the presidency.

          French election: Le Pen set to join presidential race

          Far-right leader Marine Le Pen says she now has enough support to run for the presidency as Nicolas Sarkozy edges ahead in the polls.


          13 March 2012

          Far-right leader Marine Le Pen says she has secured the support of the 500 elected officials necessary to stand in the French presidential election.

          Rest of article in Link.
          The 'grapevine' says that her gains in the polls spooked Sarkozy which lead to the recent shooting in France.

          Sarkozy Gains After Shootings as Candidates Resume Campaigning



          Mar 22, 2012
          French President Nicolas Sarkozy pulled ahead of Socialist Francois Hollande in a poll tracking intentions for the first round of next month’s elections following a spree of terrorist murders that underscored his role as a crisis fighter.

          The campaign resumed today after it was suspended in the wake of a March 19 shooting that killed four people, including three children, at a Jewish school in Toulouse. The self- proclaimed assassin, who also shot dead three people last week, has been holed up in his apartment since 3 a.m. yesterday.
          Let's hope she wins!
          Sarkozy is a scumbag who wasn't even born in France.
          The shooter was tracked (read trained) by the government, let loose and then killed by the government and Sarkoy's poll results go up.

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          • Brian
            Banned
            • Oct 2011
            • 1130

            #6
            And if (read when) the government does pull a shifty and creates their own false flag terror attack let's ban/arrest conspiracy theorists who might try to expose the truth - "1984 thought control/police". This is exactly the kind of thing I have been going on about since being on the MTO.

            Sarkozy: Visiting hate and terror websites will be punished

            French President Nicolas Sarkozy has spoken out strongly against extremism, but urged his countrymen not to stigmatize Muslims, after a 32-hour siege that resulted in the death of a radical Islamist gunman who confessed to killing seven people.


            22 March, 2012
            French President Nicolas Sarkozy has spoken out strongly against extremism, but urged his countrymen not to stigmatize Muslims, after a 32-hour siege that resulted in the death of a radical Islamist gunman who confessed to killing seven people.

            Sarkozy has proposed a raft of new anti-terrorist measures.
            Speaking in a press conference straight after the end of the siege in Toulouse, the French president said anyone regularly visiting websites "justifying terrorism" or "preaching hatred and violence" would be prosecuted.

            Sarkozy also called for punishments to those who travel to radical Islamic camps, even if they commit no crimes on French soil.
            It is suspected that the Mohamed Merah, the gunman who numbered three Jewish children among his victims, visited Afghanistan and Pakistan on several occasions, fighting alongside the Taliban. Merah claimed links with Al-Qaeda during the siege.
            Of course Al-Qaeda is a known CIA operation but we'll arrest you if you know that!

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            • Brian
              Banned
              • Oct 2011
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              #7
              Originally posted by DirtyCodingHabitz View Post
              She's the only legit candidate, the rest of them are sheeple herders.
              Because she is the only one who cares for France first! - the others are sell-outs of French sovereignty and people.

              The current prick wasn't even born in France. That's why I have always said NO immigrant should EVER be considered for public office and ONLY his grand child or better still great-grand child could be considered.

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              • George S.
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 10116

                #8
                can someone explain to me how france can make laws agains't minorities & get away with it.Macedonia can't do anything "right".Will it count if you got the balls to do it of course.
                Yeah sarkozy is a dickhead,i think he sides with the greeks.
                Last edited by George S.; 03-27-2012, 04:56 AM. Reason: ed
                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                GOTSE DELCEV

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                • United MKD
                  Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 547

                  #9
                  Originally posted by George S. View Post
                  Yeah sarkozy is a dickhead,i think he sides with the greeks.
                  He loves the Greeks, time and time again he has shown full support for Greece over our name issue. His mother was half Greek I believe.

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                  • Onur
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2389

                    #10
                    Both Sarkozy and François Hollande have jewish roots.

                    Hollande is leading the polls right now. The only way for Marine Le Pen to win it, is being 2nd in the first round of the election, so she has to get more votes than Sarkozy.

                    After the latest terror attack in France, Sarkozy increased his support. F. Hollande has 30%, Sarkozy 27%, Le Pen has 14% support according to the latest polls;

                    French President Nicolas Sarkozy has enjoyed a significant poll boost in the wake of his handling of the terrorist atrocity in Toulouse.

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                    • Komita
                      Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 243

                      #11
                      The only candidate that deserve respect, our support but will also have support from nationalists all over Europe is Marie Le Pen. Do pobeda!


                      Le Pen criticised the troika - the International Monetary Fund, the European Union and the European Central Bank - which has demanded Greece impose austerity measures in return for bailout funds.

                      "The troika unites the European Commission, the Central Bank and the IMF against the people," she said.
                      Слава му на Бога за се

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                      • Onur
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2389

                        #12
                        Marine is strictly against the EU. She says EU is dead and she will bring Franc back to France by exiting from Eurozone and re-negotiate French membership of EU and quit from it if eurocrats in Brussels refuses her demands.

                        This is from last year but warn you, Euronews is a pro-EU, leftist French media;
                        Marine Le Pen next French President ? (English OverVoice) - YouTube


                        And watch this;
                        Marine Le Pen to RT: We fight for French identity - YouTube
                        Last edited by Onur; 03-27-2012, 11:33 AM.

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                        • George S.
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10116

                          #13
                          she should ,i don't know how much france has borrowed or whether it can pay it back.They should pull out.The whole thing of eu mem,bership & benefits is a joke.Countries have been getting into debt & the eu having to bail them out.
                          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                          GOTSE DELCEV

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                          • Brian
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1130

                            #14
                            Does anyone know what Le Pen's rating is at the moment?

                            Sarkozy to lose presidential elections in Landslide?




                            (Ehhh!...I F'ed everything up...err, how you say, good, now I get my President pension anyway.)

                            19 April 2012
                            Confronted with plunging polls and deserting allies, President Nicolas Sarkozy faces the prospect of a rout in the two-round French presidential election starting this weekend, with senior members of his government already said to be certain of defeat.

                            Supporters of the front-running Socialist candidate, François Hollande, could scarcely contain their euphoria when they gathered in Lille for their last big rally on Tuesday night before French electors go to the polls on Sunday. They interrupted the candidate's speech endlessly with chants of "François president, François president".

                            "You are well informed," Mr Hollande quipped. "It is possible we are going to win. It's not certain... but, yes, I feel the hope rising."

                            New polls published yesterday suggested that Mr Hollande, 57, was leading the field of 10 candidates in the first round with up to 29 per cent of the vote. He had extended his lead over Mr Sarkozy to between two and four points. In voting intentions for the two-candidate, second round on 6 May, Mr Hollande now leads the President by a "landslide" margin of 14 to 16 per cent.

                            In a series of damning, private remarks, reported by the Le Canard Enchainé newspaper, senior members of President Sarkozy's government said that defeat now seemed inevitable.

                            "The carrots are cooked," the Prime Minister, François Fillon, was quoted as saying. "[Sarkozy's] strategy of campaigning on hard-right issues was a serious mistake." The former centre-right prime minister, Jean-Pierre Raffarin, was reported to have said privately: "There is no chance of us winning."

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                            • Brian
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1130

                              #15
                              Sad to say Le Pen came in 3rd place in this Sunday's 1st round of voting.

                              Sarkozy comes up Short in Elections...



                              22 April 2012
                              Socialist champion Francois Hollande stamped his authority on the French presidential race on Sunday, winning the first round of polling and setting up a May 6 run-off with incumbent Nicolas Sarkozy.

                              Hollande won between 28 and 30% of the vote in the first round, to Sarkozy's 24
                              to 27.5, according to estimates compiled from ballot samples by several polling agencies and obtained by AFP from multiple sources.

                              That made Sarkozy the only incumbent French president to lose a first round-vote in the history of the Fifth Republic, which came into being in 1958.

                              Official results were not to be made available until polls closed in major urban centres at 8:00pm (1800 GMT), but the tendency was clear and the mood at Sarkozy's campaign headquarters was resigned and sombre.

                              "It's a very good first round score. Dignity paid off," said Socialist spokeswoman Aurelie Filippetti, welcoming Sunday's result in the more upbeat venues of Hollande's party headquarters.

                              Ten candidates were in the race -- Hollande and Sarkozy being trailed by far-right flag-bearer Marine Le Pen, hard-left firebrand Jean-Luc Melenchon, veteran centrist Francois Bayrou and a handful of outsiders.

                              Le Pen came third with between 17 and 20%, beating bitter enemy Melenchon, who scored between 10.5 and 13%. Bayrou won between 8.7 and 10%, according to the estimates seen by AFP.

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