The Arvanites considered themselves to be Skipetars(Albanians) in 1814!

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  • Daskalot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
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    The Arvanites considered themselves to be Skipetars(Albanians) in 1814!







    Please do notice that Arvanites considered themselves to be Albanians which is in their own native language; Skipetar/Shqipetar.

    To claim Arvanites as anything else than Orthodox Albanians is an outright lie because they used the same native name for themselves as any other Albanian and that is Skipetar/Shqipetar.
    Macedonian Truth Organisation
  • Astrit
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 28

    #2
    Ethnic Arvanite and head of the Avanite League in the 90's Aristidh Kolia was ostracized and received hundreds of death threats from Greeks for admitting the Albanian origin of the Arvanites. He was labeled by Greek politicians as a traitor and spy working for Albanian government.


    Albanian hero Aristidh Kolia


    Video of Kolia speaking Albanian with his family, for Arvanites to speak their language outside of their home was considered taboo in Greece.

    YouTube - TRABOINI: ARISTIDH KOLIA pret familjen Traboini, 1995



    Written by KOLEC TRABOINI


    Who has not met the great Arvanite writer and has not managed to read his writings, could never think how close to death this person was living, and this for two reasons, firstly, because all his life he had been searching both the light and dark sides of history, where bravery was mixed with infidelity, poison with the bullet and knife, and revealed the tragic end of the many Arvanite leaders who became famous through the history of Greece.
    Secondly, even in the ones who until today they believe in the Great Idea to take over Albania, which reaches until the mouth of the ex-presidents like Saratzetakis, or even the Kapsaliots who demand in publicity the return of Istanbul in the Greek capital, they were organizing plans for the neutralization of Aristidh P. Kolia and if it would be possible even his physical elimination.

    In the extremist national newspapers, Aristidh Kolia was characterized as the enemy of Greece, as an Albanian agent, as a curse, and every possible accusations that could be told for someone. Everyone who knew the Arvanite writer would confirm that they had to do with a person of a good heart, calm, loving, patient, that was honored to be a Greek citizen and at the same time, the Albanian blood that used to boil in his heart.

    In this atmosphere of humiliation towards Albanians and Arvanites, the writer and researcher Aristidh Kolia used to live.
    But it was not only for the overall atmosphere, but also for the hidden and public threats for his life, threats that he had spoken about to his Albanian friend, the painter Robert Alia Dragot, who had worked two of his book covers.

    Letters, phone calls, phone call detections, following every step, and especially during the war in Kosova, in the anxiety of the pro-Serb and anti-Albanian Greeks, the courage of the extremist Greeks became even greater and they even reached at that point to fill the walls of the Greek capital with messages asking for the punishment with death of the writer of the book ‘Greece in the trap of Milosevic's Serbs’.

    Aristidh Kolia, as a leader of the Arvanite community in Greece ‘Marko Bocari’, will be accused continuously from the ultra national Greek orthodox powers, for the reality of the Kosova’s events, ( ‘I am also Kosovar – was written in his magazine ‘Arvanon’), and also for the reality of the Albanians in Greece, whom he represented through his community – recognizable from the Greek law. ‘He – the lawyer Ilir Malindi wrote – would be driven to the court from the ultra reactionary Greek organizations, and would be threatened with death. It is not a coincidence, that in the whole Athens, in summer 1999 (during the tragic events in Kosova) there were thousands of messages, where it was asked the hanging of Aristidh Kola and his death’.

    It was that atmosphere, when a TV discussion directed from the commentator Liana Kaneli, of the Greek TV ‘Skai’, turned into an aggressive attack from her and the other fanatic Greeks of the media towards the invited writer Aristidh Kolia, as if he was the enemy of the whole Greece.

    The Arvanite writer responded to the public attacks of the media with seriousness, without aggression, with a level that was suitable to his name as a great writer and researcher, whose writings were widely known and were re-edited many times.
    ‘Many friends called me to express their concerns about the mood that Mrs. Liana Kaneli threw on me, during the TV program at ‘Skai’ 5 May 1999, and asked me why I faced it calm, while I should attack them back… My friends, do not worry and do not bitter for this, because ‘the truth reveals when its time comes’… I have loved and I do love my country, but my love is not with words but with my writings, which will be remembered when Mrs. Kaneli will be forgotten in time. I have always preferred to go against the stream and not from where the stream goes and where the air blows. I have never licked and I have never kissed the dirty feet and for this I am paying it very expensive and in a daily way with my honor of my knowledge and my freedom…’
    However, the great heart of Aristidh Kolia knew how much stress and how much damage they brought to his creation, how much pain they brought him and his family, because the pressure of the community opinion used to fall also upon his family, his relatives and friends.

    Aristidh Kolia used to be followed in silence, in the intentions of trying to make his life hell, because he was the person who gave rebirth to the honor and pride of the many hundred of thousands of Arvanites around Greece. It was Aristidh Kolia the first Arvanite writer who wrote in his books that the Arvanites should be proud, because 90 per cent of the heroes of the revolution for the Greek Independence were Arvanites from blood and language.

    Thanks to his ability of history research, for which he left his profession of lawyer, he gave facts that not only the sons of the Arvanites were the heroes of the Greek nation, but also that the culture and arts of Arvanites had now become part of the national Greek traditions including the songs, dresses and continued until he reached to explain the ancient Greek mythology through the Arvanite language, the names of the Olympic gods, something that could not be explained through the Greek language.
    His book ‘Arvanites and the origin of Greeks’, was first edited in 1983, a volume book with more than 500 pages was edited more than ten times in Greece, and became like the Bible for the Arvanites, who had kept secret for so many years their feelings of pride for their origins of the Albanian blood.
    Together with the book ‘The language of Gods’ first edited in 1989, which Aristidh Kolia used to consider as part of the chapter in the big book ‘Arvanites’, they made two monuments that Aristidh Kolia raised for his people, and with this monument his name remains immortal.

    He together with the great Antonia Bellushi, in the year 1988, close to the national organization, make officially known that in Greece live more than 2 million Albanians, and also that there were more than 600 accommodation centers of Albanian-speakers. This became public through many ways of media, starting from the magazine of Kozenca ‘Bond’ that was published from Papas Bellushi.

    It was for these writings of his monumental aim and the acts of the national Greek extremists, who dreamed their public burning in the court together with their heretic writer.
    Without having power from the law (the Greek law is democratic), they used more diluted methods to make his life unaffordable with the hope that he would leave his writings. Firstly, they were asking, the killing of his creation by destroying its source, by creating stories that the author is a betrayer of Greece, in order to make the Arvanites to go away from his writings, his organizations, the buying and readings of the magazine that Aristidh Kolia used to publish as a leader of the Center of the Arvanites Research, in the beginning known with the name ‘Besa’ and later as ‘Arvanon’.
    The use of the other diluted method which was also the platform of the Greek media, newspapers and TV, was to make put dirt publicly about the Albanian emigrants as people born to kill and steal.

    These kind of propaganda reached until the point to make a village near Athens with Arvanite inhabitants, to gather the whole village and make Albanians go away, by using the arms of fire and agricultural tools.

    Aristidh Kolia was feeling the things that were happening, and was smelling the wrong intentions of the official propaganda that with one stone it could kill two birds, it used to put dirt upon the Albanian emigrants as an oppression to the Albanian government to give lands from the south of Albania, and secondly to make the Arvanite population hate their own brothers of the same Albanian blood who came in Greece many centuries ago.

    The Arvanite writer had the courage to stigmatize these sneaky trials of the Greek media that used to synchronize perfectly with the ultra nationalists of Greece.
    All that anti-Albanian propaganda, all that atmosphere with the aim of killing the honor of being Albanian, was counting to create the fascist desire for the Arvanites to consider themselves as the same blood with the emigrants of lower level who used to work as slaves for few drachmas without value, and in turn the creation of Aristidh would lose its color, would be left aside as the writings of a person that does not know what he is saying. But, it did not happen like this. The creation of the great Arvanite writer met a distribution wider and wider, his magazine with research for the traditions and culture of the Arvanites was in demand, and from the other side Kolia continued to publish new writings.
    He had many books in his hands. He had so much work to do. Lately he was preparing the Arvanite-Greek dictionary, which would distinguish the Arvanite language from the official Greek language.
    It had been for a while that he had expressed the idea of publishing a dictionary with a Latin alphabet for the Albanians of Greece, so that he could bring closer the Albanian language and communication with history, culture and Albanian arts. Aristidh Kola used to cooperate with all the circles of Albanian diaspora around the world. He kept the connections and always cooperated with the Albanians in USA, with his close friend and co-researcher Papas Antonio Belushi in Kozenc of Italy, with the intellectuals of Kosova, Macedonia, Turkey and Albania. He was connected even with the Arbereshe of Korsike.

    As if he felt the danger of being threatened, he published a writing, and for its publishing he invited researchers, and many friends, from Greece, Albania and Italy. His closest friend had also come, the Italian researcher, Antonio Bellusi and also the Albanian ambassador in Athens, Kastriot Robo.
    It was 24 May. It was the publishing of the book, when the 55 years old writer Aristidh Kolia started to feel sudden pain that hadn’t felt before. Something was happening to his organism. He was feeling something bad.
    It crossed his mind all the curses and the threatens for his death a year ago. He had a hot summer in Athens with many extraordinary side effects for his sudden situation and for the luck of his writings that he was holding in his hands. September found him in bed. October was damaging his body.
    Friends used to come but he couldn’t accept the sympathies. It crossed his mind as a vision, the luck of the Arvanite historical personalities for whom he had written in his own great creation ‘Arvanites’.
    Teodor Kollokotroni was poisoned in jail, even though he never said with words that he was Arvanite, and his real surname kept through generations was Bithguri, Gjergj Karaskaki was killed by a trap and his last word when he caught the bullet was in the Arvanite language.
    They had killed many others, including the Arvanite hero Laskarina Bubulina.
    Who doesn’t know the story of the poisoned coffee aiming to vanish the famous Arvanites of the previous century, the journalist from Salamina, Anastas Kullurioti?
    Until lately the leakage of the poison and the bullet had reached the lives of two presidents of the community ‘Marko Bocari’. These two were more memorable to him, as they were much closer to his time. They had also been, like him, president of the Arvanites of Greece. And the diagnosis for both sudden deaths had been the same: Leukemia. The same symptom of the three presidents of Arvanites of Greece, Two lives taken mysteriously, from the hands that never appear in the scene, and a third life was coming soon. It was his.
    In one of the last meetings next to the bed of death, the Albanian ambassador together with the Albanian lawyer Ilir Malindi had gone to see him, and the lawyer said:
    ‘I had the chance to visit the great Aristidh Kola, in the last day of his life, in the hospital of Athens ‘Evangjelismos’ and I saw his hopeless situation. He told me that he was happy that the Albanian newspapers had written for his sickness… I gave him courage, saying that he would recover very soon and that together we would continue the research and new publications, but…. Ahhh! He, with disappointment and pride at the same time, told us these words:
    ‘Please do not feed any illusion. They killed me and that is how they have acted for other two leaders of the Albanian community ‘Marko Bocari’, who also died from ‘leukemia’. I have said these words also to my other friends’ …
    ‘I went to see him again in the first days of October- the Albanian ambassador told me from a phone discussion from Athens- but when I called him from the first floor of the hospital ‘Evangjelismo’, that is close to the embassy, he told me that that day he was feeling very bad, and would welcome his visit one of the following days. Four days later, they inform me that Aristidh died. They were extremely sad news’.

    It was 11 October 2000 the day that the mysterious physical death of the writer and leader of Arvanites happened, in order to add another enigmatic death in the Greek history.

    However, the second murder continues. And this happens in a platform not at all mystical and silent as the physical elimination of the writer. Everything possible is done to bury his writings together with his body. In Athens for the death of Aristidh Kolia, only one newspaper wrote. The magazine ‘Klan’ in Albania refused the publication of the writing for the death with the reason that ‘this topic is covered by the newspaper ‘Albania’.’ His close Arvanite friends remained hesitated and shocked from the happening and maybe from the fear. The question that I asked to the current president of Arvanites Jorgo Jeru, if he intends to edit any declaration, necrology, or communication for the creation of the great writer, he told me that they do not have any plans.

    The death happened in a silent dark way. The nationalist Greeks from the black bushes, where not satisfied with the physical elimination of the great Arvanite who gave rebirth to ‘the language of Gods’, now they were prepared to attack and bring death again to his creations.
    If the Arvanites and Albanians will not understand this black mission of the Greek Great Idea, that does not even save the money and the poison, with the black intentions towards Arvanites, emigrants and all the Albanian nation, then each of us, has taken his/her part with their silence in the second murder of Aristidh Kolia. The creation of the great Aristidh Kolia, that deserves a place of honor in the historic Albanian letters, can kill it both our lack of interest and the will of giving.
    Let us think for today so that our self-consciousness does not kill us tomorrow!

    'DIELLI" Vol.91, Nr.4 2000, New York
    Last edited by Astrit; 08-16-2009, 10:10 PM.

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    • Soldier of Macedon
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 13670

      #3
      Very interesting information, and refutes the common Greek assertion that the Arvanites did not have a common identity with the Albanians of the north. The word 'Shqiptar' in itself came about a few centuries ago, so for the Arvanites to be using this word there must be common ties in existence with the Albanians even in the 19th century.
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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      • Soldier of Macedon
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 13670

        #4
        Astrit, how common has the term 'Arnaut' been among the Albanians themselves during the past 500 years?
        In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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        • Astrit
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 28

          #5
          Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
          Astrit, how common has the term 'Arnaut' been among the Albanians themselves during the past 500 years?
          No Albanians calls himself an Arnaut or Arnavutluk is his native language, it is a foreign name.

          Before the 17th century Albanians used to identify themselves as either Arbėrs, Arbėreshė or Arbėrorė. After the 17th century Shqyptar(Gheg form), Shqiptar(Tosk form, standard Albanan). The older forms of identification while not used as commonly anymore have become popular names. Arbėr for example is one of the ten most popular names in Albania.

          Shqiponje/Shqyponje means eagle in Albanian, after we adopted the eagle as our main symbol we changed our ethnic name correlating to an eagle.

          A little known fact is that the snake,dragon and the sun well before the eagle where the three most important symbols to Albanians. Albanian paganism which still exists today incorporates these symbols.

          Gjarpėr=Snake, Diell=Sun, Dragon=Kuēedėr/Dragua
          Last edited by Astrit; 08-17-2009, 02:38 AM.

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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15658

            #6
            Astrit, do you find it odd that the Albanians identified with the "eagle" reference so much that they named themselves after it. I find this a little unbelievable. Especially when we are talking about the Orthodox religious symbol.

            Interesting stuff nonetheless.
            Risto the Great
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            • Astrit
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 28

              #7
              Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
              Astrit, do you find it odd that the Albanians identified with the "eagle" reference so much that they named themselves after it. I find this a little unbelievable. Especially when we are talking about the Orthodox religious symbol.

              Interesting stuff nonetheless.
              It is a relatively new symbol for us Albanians. Risto, didn't Alexander the Great use the the eagle as a symbol? There was a temple in either present day Iraq or Afghanistan built by Alexander's soldiers that had a double headed eagle in it's center. I have seen a picture not too long ago but I will look into it again.
              Last edited by Astrit; 08-17-2009, 04:29 AM.

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              • Soldier of Macedon
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 13670

                #8
                The eagle is a noble creature and has been used by many peoples, Rome used a single headed eagle, East Rome used a double-headed eagle.
                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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