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  • Vangelovski
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 8531

    Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
    Four U.S. Senators Urge President Obama to Support Macedonia’s NATO Membership at Lisbon Summit
    See: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/517/1/
    Again:

    While a satisfactory resolution of this dispute [the name] remains of understandable importance to their bilateral relations...
    What happend to UMD not supporting the negotiations?
    If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

    The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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    • UMDiaspora.org
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 525

      Macedonia needs you, what are you doing to help?

      Click here to read letter from UMD Chairman Stojan Nikolov: http://myemail.constantcontact.com/M...id=CXUD3UcO_50
      For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

      United Macedonian Diaspora
      http://www.umdiaspora.org

      1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
      Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

      PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
      Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

      3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
      Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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      • Makedonska_Kafana
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 2642

        Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
        Macedonia needs you, what are you doing to help?

        Click here to read letter from UMD Chairman Stojan Nikolov: http://myemail.constantcontact.com/M...id=CXUD3UcO_50
        what the fuck are you clowns doing?

        Once, again you have failed to address the real problem, your friends in Washington DC. and at the UN who are really the people holding Macedonia hostage regarding the name talks. Macedonia wants to walk away ..

        Where is the anger? Where is the call to cease name talks? Where is a memo to President Obama and Reeker about this latest insult?

        Ask Soros for money if that's what will make you get to the finish line, you're living a Greek myth.

        PS - You can't write anymore? Maybe, you just ask anyone to do the next one and run with it. I can't believe my eyes, you have the gull to seek money today after what happened yesterday - for what, another trip to Australia?
        http://www.makedonskakafana.com

        Macedonia for the Macedonians

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
          Macedonia needs you, what are you doing to help?
          We are stopping Macedonians in the Diaspora from believing UMD is their saviour. Because clearly the UMD is lying to its members by stating it is against negotiations but supporting the current process for acceptance into NATO and EU. They are confused and all Macedonians do not need the UMD brand of doublespeak.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Makedonska_Kafana
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 2642

            Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
            We are stopping Macedonians in the Diaspora from believing UMD is their saviour. Because clearly the UMD is lying to its members by stating it is against negotiations but supporting the current process for acceptance into NATO and EU. They are confused and all Macedonians do not need the UMD brand of doublespeak.
            Risto, you're so right and we must put an end to their games - NATO and EU as long as we are Macedonians and speak Macedonian.

            The UMD agree's with disgraceful names like FYROM, North, South. New, Slav, Vardar a long as the other two are met. F THEM
            http://www.makedonskakafana.com

            Macedonia for the Macedonians

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            • indigen
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 1558

              Vangelovski:

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              UMD: "...Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org
              UMD Reaffirms Request That President Obama Champion Macedonia's Accession to NATO; Refutes American Hellenic Institute
              See: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/520/1/...."
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              Meto,

              Thank you for the copy of your pathetic letter to Obama. What on earth was this all about:
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              UMD: "....the government and the citizens of Macedonia have made herculean efforts and demonstrated remarkable patience -- over a period of almost 20 years-- to find a solution to the foregoing artificial issue. Nonetheless, Greece time and again has demonstrated its unwillingness to close this issue out. Instead, it has insisted on a moving target of concessions intended to string the matter out ad infinitum. Macedonia, in good faith, has made numerous concessions to placate Greece. However, patience has an end; time has run out on Greece’s intransigence and, importantly, its flouting of what is best for NATO and Southeast Europe...."
              ----

              Vangelovski: "This is standard vassal garbage straight from the Macedonian Government. It is nothing more than a legitimisation of the treason undertaken for the sake of vassal interests."

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              UMD: "Macedonia, in good faith, has made numerous concessions to placate Greece."
              In this letter the "UMD" have shown their true VASSAL colours and this info should be used to restrict, diminish and ultimately extinguish this extended arm of the treasonous Ramkovist VASSAL political establishment in Skopje and their puppet masters in Washington DC, amongst other places.
              Last edited by indigen; 11-21-2010, 06:45 PM.

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              • Makedonska_Kafana
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 2642

                UMD does not know how to communicate in the English language because in order to get anything out of that memo one would need to stand on their head a spin backwards.

                WTF is this?

                - President Obama
                http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                • indigen
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 1558

                  Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post
                  UMD does not know how to communicate in the English language because in order to get anything out of that memo one would need to stand on their head a spin backwards.

                  WTF is this?

                  - President Obama
                  "UMD": "Macedonia, in good faith, has made numerous concessions to placate Greece."
                  I think it is more than likely that the Ramkovist Ambassador in the US had a hand in drafting that letter or at least some Skopje Vassal apparatchik checked and approved it. Otherwise how else could ANY SANE Macedonian say "Macedonia, in good faith", entered the UN as FYROM, gave up the Macedonian nation's flag, changed its constitution so that it is forbidden to care about Macedonian national rights in the occupied native Macedonian lands, conceded Ancient Macedonian heritage, has its history books vetted by anti-Macedonians, signed the "Interim Accord", which says it must enter all international organisations as FYROM and agrees to negotiate a change in the state's name, and endures ALL the consequences arising out of all these capitulations. Thus according the "UMD" and the Ramkovists in Skopje, Macedonia "IN GOOD FAITH" committed, is committing and will continue to commit national deconstruction until its final demise!

                  What were these Macedonians protesting about in 1993?:





                  Last edited by indigen; 11-21-2010, 07:46 PM.

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                  • Makedonska_Kafana
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2642

                    Originally posted by CND_MKD
                    Your contribution, large or small, allows the UMD, a true global advocacy organization that relies on community donors, to be your voice in pressing the international community to:

                    * Stand up for truth, and against Greece's and Bulgaria's outright lies.

                    * Stand up for full civil rights of Macedonians living in Southeast Europe.

                    * Stand up for justice, and against the sacrifice of Macedonian rights.

                    * Stand up against foreign pressure.

                    * Stand up for your right to self-identify as Macedonian.

                    * Guarantee the territorial integrity of Macedonia.
                    These are some pretty bold claims.....especially claiming that one can guarentee the territorial integrity. Hope youre buying ammo with these donations.
                    Well, maybe now people will pay closer attention to what MANY of us have been saying - very big talkers with little results to back it up.

                    UMD is a NATO member?

                    How does that help the Diaspora - press coverage?

                    BREAKINGS NEWS

                    UMD READIES TO SEND MEMBERS TO PATROL GREEK/BULGARIA/ALBANIA BORDERS
                    http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                    Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                    • Pelister
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2742

                      To describe some of the beliefs and wishes, and grievances of Macedonians here, UMD uses terms such as 'hardliners'. Isn't it interesting that Macedonians here are asking for nothing less than our basic rights, legal, historical and political - no one has been advocating 'war' or an 'invasion' or anything of the sort. Macedonians at MTO have taken a principled legal and historical defence of our most basic rights, and UMD propoganda goes around recruiting young and impressionable Macedonians with their propoganda that we are 'hardliners' and that UMD are 'moderates'. UMD is good are muddying the waters, and very good at creating a public perception about itself that has nothing to do with the truth. Take a look at the terms and conditions of the Interim Accord, the Framework Agreement, the Negotiations Framework and UMD is either miraculously defending the most glaring anti-Macedonian terms (I mean terms that want us buried, and exterminated), or remaining ambiguously slient on them. The terms UMD use to describe us 'hardliners' and themselves 'moderates' is a deliberate distortion of the facts. Meto Koloski has repeatedly called for a NAME CHANGE. Isn't that something young UMD recruits, particularly here in Australia, should be suspicious of?

                      Alot of clever spin from UMD whose rhretoric will end up decieving many Macedonians, but the devil (critical contradictions) is once again in the detail.
                      Last edited by Pelister; 11-21-2010, 11:42 PM.

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                      • Makedonska_Kafana
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2642

                        p., after this last memo no one in their right mind will take them serious "guarentee the territorial integrity"

                        can you picture meto and aleksandar at the greek border dressed in suits holding laptops?
                        http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                        Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                        • Makedonska_Kafana
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2642

                          Ladies and gentlemen that post by the UMD is not only very poor judgement, it's very dangerous to make such bold claims - crossed the line of being an NGO and now have become extremists.

                          ADVICE

                          Folks, life is short so please look after your own families and let the paid professionals handle these matters .. CIA, FBI, RCMP I& NTERPOL .. not the UMD board with your donations.
                          http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                          Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                          • Makedonska_Kafana
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2642

                            Okay, If anyone states the obvious you must back it up with the reasons why.

                            Q. Should the members of the UMD force Meto to resign after reading claims of "guarantee the territorial integrity" plus plus? Did he set someone else up SN to save his own ass?

                            Anyhow, he was the person who posted it on forums which means he backs it up with a "guarantee"
                            Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 11-22-2010, 03:29 AM.
                            http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                            Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                            • Vangelovski
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 8531

                              Meto you shallow puppet,

                              How are you 'standing up' for anything by promoting Macedonian entry into NATO under the name FYROM?

                              Which natural rights and freedoms do you think you are standing up for?

                              Do you even understand what natural rights, justice and freedom are? As is, your comments demonstrate that you do not.

                              Once the vassal politicians that you work for change Macedonia's name, what will be the purpose of your pathetic organisation then? What justice will it seek?
                              Last edited by Vangelovski; 11-22-2010, 03:31 AM.
                              If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                              The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                              • George S.
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10116

                                how many mto members are still members of umd & are using their umd credit cards to support the umd.Not me.
                                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                                GOTSE DELCEV

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