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  • UMDiaspora.org
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 525

    Why did U.S. and Canada recognize Macedonia? Did they ruin their relations with Australia?

    Australian-Macedonians need to get more active and push for Australia to recognize Macedonia as Republic of Macedonia. We need more action, and less talk on forums. Don't attack UMD for pushing the Australian government to recognize Macedonia.
    For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

    United Macedonian Diaspora
    http://www.umdiaspora.org

    1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
    Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

    PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
    Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

    3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
    Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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    • Prolet
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 5241

      UMD, Only an absolute idiot would attack UMD for pushing the Australian Government to Recognize Macedonia, it would be our ultimate goal believe me but if you ever come to Australia and go around Melbourne and Sydney by far the two biggest cities in Australia you will feel the full force of the Greek Lobby. They Finance the biggest political parties Labor and Liberal, they spend alot of money to lobby this is why Australia is the only country in the world to recognize us as Slav Macedonians.

      Look at it from an Australian point of view, whats in it for them if they recognize us?? Bofore Nikola Gruevski arrived in Australia a good two months in advance the Greeks were already pushing the panic button while we didnt even know how to greet him.

      We need to strengthen our relations with Australia this is a must, however it needs to be done the right way and something needs to be done for Australia in order for them to recognize us. There is an old Aussie saying, Theres no such thing as a free lunch so i commend the UMD for at least considering to find a way to reach out to Australia as this is a major step however expect some major reactions from the Greek Lobby thats all im saying in other words prepare to get your hands dirty.

      As for Canada and USA recognizing our name, well Rogi suggested that we swap our vote for name recognition which doesnt really make alot of sense since the Greeks will Already back Australia and expect Cyprus to aswell not to mention Bulgaria so thats 3 countries to one, our vote to Australia for the security council will be nothing more then a bonus its not going to have alot of value its one of those votes where you would want to have however if you dont get it there is no sweat over it..
      МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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      • chicagoan
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 110

        Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
        Why did U.S. and Canada recognize Macedonia? Did they ruin their relations with Australia?

        Australian-Macedonians need to get more active and push for Australia to recognize Macedonia as Republic of Macedonia. We need more action, and less talk on forums. Don't attack UMD for pushing the Australian government to recognize Macedonia.
        George W Bush and company recognized Macedonia as a result of you being an " ally against terror "

        Not to mention Camp Bondsteel and the then Neo-Con policy of rewarding nations that went along with " war against terror ". Which btw happened to be the worst administration of the US in decades. The Neo-Cons failed miserably and put the US in a complete decline.

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        • chicagoan
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 110

          I remember seeing pictures of Rumsfeld going back and forth from Macedonia and the US. Im surprised Karamanlis didnt see that coming.

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          • UMDiaspora.org
            Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 525

            Is Macedonia Hellenic? Yes or No?

            Vote NO today!

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            For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

            United Macedonian Diaspora
            http://www.umdiaspora.org

            1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
            Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

            PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
            Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

            3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
            Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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            • Daskalot
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 4345

              No, Macedonia is not Hellenic but rather Macedonian.
              Macedonian Truth Organisation

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              • UMDiaspora.org
                Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 525

                Of course Macedonia is not Hellenic and never has been! That is why we should vote NO on that poll.
                For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                United Macedonian Diaspora
                http://www.umdiaspora.org

                1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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                • Daskalot
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 4345

                  Chicagoan, you seem quite knowledgeable about American politics so I will assume that you have been living in the US, is this correct?
                  Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                  • The LION will ROAR
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3231

                    I use to go to that forum...and still at times i do...
                    But those Greeks who post there are the most racist Mther F@#kers i've ever seen..
                    They always out number the Macedonians and all they know is insults and threats..
                    Maybe we all should go on to this forum for a day... and teach them a lesson...
                    The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                    • Risto the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15658

                      Great, more Greeks than Macedonians ... and winner is .... bullshit.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15658

                        Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
                        Why did U.S. and Canada recognize Macedonia? Did they ruin their relations with Australia?

                        Australian-Macedonians need to get more active and push for Australia to recognize Macedonia as Republic of Macedonia. We need more action, and less talk on forums. Don't attack UMD for pushing the Australian government to recognize Macedonia.
                        Absolutely agree.
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Risto the Great
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15658

                          Originally posted by chicagoan View Post
                          George W Bush and company recognized Macedonia as a result of you being an " ally against terror "

                          Not to mention Camp Bondsteel and the then Neo-Con policy of rewarding nations that went along with " war against terror ". Which btw happened to be the worst administration of the US in decades. The Neo-Cons failed miserably and put the US in a complete decline.
                          Greece was recognised under what motivations 180 years earlier?
                          Risto the Great
                          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                          • UMDiaspora.org
                            Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 525

                            If you want to get involved in UMD's work in Australia, including our campaign calling on Australia to recognize Macedonia by her constitutional name, contact UMD Director of Australian Operations, Ordan Andreevski at [email protected].
                            For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                            United Macedonian Diaspora
                            http://www.umdiaspora.org

                            1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                            Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                            PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                            Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                            3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                            Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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                            • Soldier of Macedon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 13670

                              That is one of the biggest racist and dud forums going around, I have coded the link, no need to give exposure to such a filthy website.
                              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                              • Pelister
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 2742

                                A better question might be who does UMD represent and what does it stand for ?

                                Continued negotiations ?
                                Name changes ?
                                Support for FYROM ?
                                Support for the 2001 Framework Agreement ?
                                Rejects our links to the ancient Macedonians ?

                                These are questions!

                                UMD supports Greece withing the current framework of the negotiations. I would argue it therefore supports the proposition that Macedonia can be Hellenic too, even though its clever spin and rhetoric will suck some of the more gullible Macedonians into thinking otherwise.

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