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  • Bratot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2855

    Thracian - Slavic Etymological analyses

    Nobody has brought to attention the similarity of the Thracian and Old Slavic pantheon.

    In my opinion, Thracian Perkun corresponds to Slavic Perun,
    Thracian Seitovins to Slavic Sventovit,
    Thracian Ares to Slavic Jarovit,
    Thracian Balenos to Slavic Belen,
    Thracian Kerilos to Slavic Černobog,
    Thracian Zemi – Zemela to Slavic Zemina – Mati Sira Zemlja.

    Even the common Slavic word for God – BOG is in fact the same as the
    Thracian one - BAGO – God.

    It is an interesting, but unknown fact that Thracians ethnonyms are easy to explain in
    Slavic languages as Bulgarian, Slovene, Czech, Russian, and others:
    Agriani were mountaineers and their name corresponds to Blg. горяни (gorjani)– mountaineers and Sl. gorjanec – mountaneer.
    Briges inhabited hilly, mountain regions too. BREG is common Slavic word for hill, high place.
    Derzi corresponds to O.Blg. ДРЕЗЪ (drezǎ) dearing, bold, Sl. drzek, drzen – bold, Cz. drzost - boldness, Russ. дерзкий (derzkii) – bold.
    Dolongi corresponds to O. Ch. Sl. ДОЛОНГЪ (DOLONGǍ) – long one.
    Drugeri corresponds to Blg. другари (drugari) – comrades, but the actual meaning of the ethnonym Drugeri is family, community, corresponding perfectly to Sl. word družina – family.

    In my opinion Tracian tribe Drugeri is the same one as the Old Slavic Drugoviti.

    Moriseni lived at the coast of Black Sea, their name corresponds to common Slavic word MORE – sea.

    Sijaleti consists of two parts: sija corresponding to common Slavic verb sejati – to sow, and leti corresponds to common Slavic ljude, ljudi, lide - people. Sijaleti means simply sowers, agricultural people.
    Vessi correspond to O. Ch. Sl. ВЬСЪ (VESǍ) – village, settlement, Vessi means settled people. Slovene VAS, dial. VES – village.



    Very interesting read and very good argumentation.
    The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot
  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13670

    #2
    Did a quick google search on the 'drugeri':


    Advancing northward through Macedonia into Thrace, which I regard as a Keltic settlement, and passing the rivers Hebrus, Tibesis, and Oskios, which are yet
    represented in Wales by the Hyver (by Nevern), the Teivi, and the Usk
    , we arrive at the snowy Mount Haemus, the Haiv or snow- drift, under its Turkish name Bal-cann, equally Welsh, meaning the white peak, the object of European interest. Its offshoots are
    the Ismarus, Ysmawr, the great, and Orbelus, Oervel, the cold. Beneath it is the town of Uscudama (if not too bold a guess), Wysc-ud-avon, the river of loud water. We meet with the Drugeri (Pliny), Drwg-wyr, evil men; the Odrysae, Godrewys or borderers
    (from Godre a border, and the plural termination l wys'); and the Odomantes, to do them no injustice, Odd-mant-wys, men of the projecting lip. The Skordiskoi were confessedly of late Gallic origin, remnants of Brennus's invading host. The Diana of the Thracians
    was Bendis (Strabo), in Irish Baindia, the goddess. Beside the Rhys and Madoc already noticed, we have Scuthes, Saethydd, the archer, the name of many Thracian princes...........
    And this from Pliny:


    CHAPTER XI.
    Thracia.

    Now followeth Thracia, among the most valiant Nations of Europe, divided into 52 Regiments (strategias) of Soldiers. Of those People in it, whom it does not grieve me to name, the Denseletes and Medi inhabit near the River Strymon, on the right Side, as far as to the Bisaltse above-named : on the left, the Digeri, and many Names of the Bessi, to the River Nestus, which environeth the Bottom of the Mountain Pan-gseus, between the Eleti, Diobesi, and Carbilesi ; and so forward to the Brysae and Capaei. Odomanta, a Nation of the Odrysee, poureth out the River Hebrus to the Neighbour- borderers, the Carbiletes, Pyrogeri, Drugeri, Caenici, Hyp-salti, Beni, Corpilli, Botisei, and Edoni. In the same Tract are the Selletae, Priautae, Diloncae, Thyni, Celetse, the greater under Haemus, the less under Rhodopae : between whom runneth the River Hebrus. The Town situate beneath Rho-dop, before-time named Poneropolis ; soon after by the Founder, Philippopolis ; but now, from its Site, Trimontium.
    Interesting Thracian tribal names.
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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    • Toska
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 137

      #3
      Drugeri means The Others

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      • Bratot
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2855

        #4
        If you would be kind enough to explan and support it somehow I will appreciate.
        The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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        • Soldier of Macedon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 13670

          #5
          The root word 'dru' seems to form several other words that bear a relation to each other:

          Drugar (Friend)
          Drushtvo (Group, Organisation)
          Druzhina (Group)
          Drzhi (Hold)
          Drzhava (Country, ie; holdings)
          Drugo (Other)
          Drugi (Others)

          I would say that 'drugeri' is the same as 'drugari' (friends, companions), as it makes most sense. In fact, I can't see how it could be or mean anything else. This has to count as further evidence of a linguistic relation between Thracian and today's Slavic languages.
          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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          • Bratot
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2855

            #6
            Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
            The root word 'dru' seems to form several other words that bear a relation to each other:

            Drugar (Friend)
            Drushtvo (Group, Organisation)
            Druzhina (Group)
            Drzhi (Hold)
            Drzhava (Country, ie; holdings)
            Drugo (Other)
            Drugi (Others)

            I would say that 'drugeri' is the same as 'drugari' (friends, companions), as it makes most sense. In fact, I can't see how it could be or mean anything else. This has to count as further evidence of a linguistic relation between Thracian and today's Slavic languages.
            You can take into consideration the word for a ROAD, PATH, WALK, FOOTPATH, TRACK, ROUTE in the Polish, Ukrainan, Russia and Czecho-Slovakian: " droga, doroga, дорожка, drσżka, друшка, drαha.."







            м. разг. друг дружку, друг дружке и т.д. см. друг II
            Last edited by Bratot; 07-23-2010, 07:05 AM.
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