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Old 10-21-2010, 05:09 AM   #21
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My greek history teacher failed me because I disagreed with her "ancient greek" books and all the bullshit was inside. That was the same teacher that didn't put my name in the school year book that had all the students names, except mine.
DCH, i understand your frustration. Perhaps asking the AMHRC for some advice would be worthwhile, as it may be a case of discrimination.

Also, a word of advice from me, is to be careful about what you say and how you react to those teachers. Try not to be confrontational, but rather let them make the mistake.

You could have perhaps challenged some of the information in those history books by citing some alternative views in other reputable publications, and then asking the teacher in front of the class, which piece of information is correct, and why.
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:13 AM   #22
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good advice but challenging any teacher in front of the class does not sit well with them
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:42 AM   #23
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DCH, i understand your frustration. Perhaps asking the AMHRC for some advice would be worthwhile, as it may be a case of discrimination.
Kinda late now... I'm 19.

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You could have perhaps challenged some of the information in those history books by citing some alternative views in other reputable publications, and then asking the teacher in front of the class, which piece of information is correct, and why.
With a greek teacher? you try convincing them.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:33 AM   #24
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I wanted to see how many people here are actually using the information on this website to make edits on Wikipedia?

Greeks and Bulgarians have a monopoly on that website, and many people use Wikipedia for information. In other words, don't blow off Wikipedia, it is an important digital battle ground that every member here has to recognize.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:40 AM   #25
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Welcome to the MTO Mactruth.
Wikipedia cannot be cited in our education system as a resource for information, and as such, is not a credible website for information, as information can be altered.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:35 AM   #26
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I wanted to see how many people here are actually using the information on this website to make edits on Wikipedia?

Greeks and Bulgarians have a monopoly on that website, and many people use Wikipedia for information. In other words, don't blow off Wikipedia, it is an important digital battle ground that every member here has to recognize.
Best thing is to contact George Soros and ask him what's going on with him - one of his many internet operations.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:55 AM   #27
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Wellcome aboard.If you had reputable people only updating information in a professional way like encyclopaidias & reference books.But with wikapaedia every man & his dog can change anything.So you got politics into it.All the different countries will have their own versions & propaganda to spread.So Mactruth the information is only as good as the people writing it.
The only thing is you have to take the information from wikipaedia with a grain of salt as it may be innaccurate.

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Old 12-08-2010, 05:46 AM   #28
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Welcome Mactruth...We already have a thread on Wikipedia..
I wouldn't use Wikipedia for toilet paper...

Wikipedia - false information
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...tion+Wikipedia

Sites such as Wikipedia have always been susceptible to vandalism and the spread of false information by individuals or groups with a vested interest.

false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. It is synonymous with and sometimes called Black propaganda. It may include the distribution of forged documents, manuscripts, and photographs, or spreading malicious rumors and fabricated intelligence. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:08 PM   #29
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I am forwarding the following info from a few selected posts from Kajgana forums to add to (or reinforce some of) the info that has already been presented in this thread.

15-08-07
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Номинално

Wikipedia ne e "glupost" zoshto mnogumina od poneupatenite bash od tamu
crpat informacii. Idealna e za mackanje ochi na Zapadnjaci i ostanati. Zatoa
Bugarite ja imaat preplaveno Wikipedia so nivna propaganda protiv Makedonija!

Ne se raboti samo za car Samoil, tuku bukvalno za sekoj Makedonec i za
sekoja tema (jazik, identitet, nastani, licnosti). Ako ne mozat nesto direktno
da izmenat, vednas do nego stavaat nivna "verzija" (ili nivnata e prva verzija)
i taka ja relativiziraat makedonskata vistina.

Na primer, duri i za osloboduvanjeto na Skopje (sto e Vtora svetska vojna i
za koj nastan ima zivi svedoci) napisale deka bilo oslobodeno bugarskoto
naselenie. Ili pak za Pulevski napisale deka ne se znaelo kakov bil, bilo
"disputed" dali e Makedonec ili Bugarin, itn.

Na Wikipedia, Bugarite imaat zaposleno lugje koi celovremeno rabotat. Taka
sto i da smenite nesto, za kratko vreme go menuvat na staroto. Mislam deka duri
ima i nekoj program koj toa go odrabotuva.

Ova kolku da znaete so kogo si imate rabota.

Pozdrav i mnogu upeh.




http://forum.kajgana.com/showthread....#1114;е-
македонска-пропаганда)


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Номинално

Sega se otkri deka i Vatikan (pokaj CIA, FBI, MI-5, BBC, itn.) shteluvale
podatoci na wikipedia.

Ako e enciklopedija, taa po definicija treba da sodrzhi provereni fakti, a
ne neshto shto na nekoj mu odgovara. Jasno e deka toaa ne e sluchaj so ovaa tnr.
"enciklopedija". Problemot e shto mnogu luge ne se svesni ili svesno go
pottisnuvaat faktot deka ne se raboti za pouzdan izvor na informacii i chesto se
povikuvaat na wiki kako izvor.

Se postavuva prashanjeto na kogo mu e potrebna vakva "encikoledija"? Dali ne
se raboti za perfiden nachin na oblikuvanje na javnoto mislenje i prekrojuvanje
na istorijata?!

Shto se odnesuva do prilozite za wikipedia, mnogu e ochigleno deka tie
spagjaat vo domenot na propagandata i revizionizmot. Zatoa mnogu organizacii,
vladi itn. kako gorenabrojanite BBC, MI-6, itn. vkluchuvajkji ja i bugarskata
vlada, imaat plateni lugje celovremeno da shirat propaganda.

Konkretno za car Samoil - ne postoi nitu eden primaren istoriski izvor od
toa vreme vo koj Samoil se narekuva/e narechen bugar! Toa e fakt!

Eve primer za valkanite igri na wikipedia:

"International Humanitarian Law professor Ludwig Braeckeleer thinks so. In
an article published yesterday in the Korean newspaper OhMyNews, he reveals a
discovery he made while researching a story on the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103
over Scotland. It turns out that a Wikipedia administrator named SlimVirgin is
actually Linda Mack, a woman who as a young graduate in the 1980s was hired by
investigative reporter Pierre Salinger of ABC News to help with the
investigation. Salinger later came to believe that Mack was actually working for
Britain's MI5 on a mission to investigate the bombing and to infiltrate and
monitor the news agency. Shortly after her Wikipedia identity was uncovered,
many of her edits to articles related to the bombing were permanently removed
from the database in an attempt to conceal her identity. This discovery comes
only months after another Wikipedia admin was caught lying about his credentials
to the press. What can Wikipedia do about those who would use it for their own
purposes?"

http://forum.kajgana.com/showthread....#1114;е-
македонска-пропаганда)/page2

For fair use only.
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Old 08-09-2011, 08:42 PM   #30
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If we can have statistics regarding this forum,
The most used word in this forum would have to be "Macedonia"
The silver medal would have to go to the Greek, forum members favourite "Wikipedia".

We've all been guilty of posting a wikipedia link before, but some seem to swear by them and think its the be all and end all. Why i came to this conclusion? well search the word "Wikipedia" in this forum, a huge majority of posts come from members such as Voltron, cultea, Agamoi Thytai, and the king of them all, the late MR Wiki (Thessa). I just wish i had a dollar each time these blokes posted a wiki link, i would have enough money to bail Greece out (not that i would do it) lol.

I feel it is important we expose some truths about "Wikipedia".
Truths, you will not find in Wikipedia it self. But then again, is their any truth in what is written on this site that gets fed by anyone in the world that only needs a computer.

Here is a stat that might explain where i am coming from.

Wikipedia wars: 10 biggest edit battles
http://www.itworld.com/cloud-computi...ttles?page=0,1

Number one is, Nikola Tesla: The Origins-of-the-Scientist War

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The eccentric Nikola Tesla was one of the most brilliant inventors of the nineteenth century. Perhaps most notably, he invented alternating current and helped perfect the designs of the radio and the telephone. His life was marked by famous feuds with the likes of Thomas Edison and Guglielmo Marconi (the inventor of radio). So what should spark an edit war?

Why, endless debate over how to refer to Tesla's nationality, of course. Serbia, Croatia, Austria, and Austria-Hungary (among others) all have decent claims to being Tesla's nation of origin, and all of them have proponents that regularly edit the page.
So his origin gets edited on regular basis. So if my son was to do a school project on Nikola Tesla, would he have to change his info on daily basis and be correct everytime?

If you ever want good, accurate, objective, critical information about History ... steer clear of Wikipedia!!


In the mean time, please also enjoy this comical video.
‪Professor Wikipedia‬‏ - YouTube
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