The Greek plan for Albania in 1822!

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  • Bratot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2855

    The Greek plan for Albania in 1822!

    Following the Greek plan for asmilation of Albanians and the policy of the Greek Ministry of Foreign Affairs in relation to Albania in the distant 1822:


    Temporary Administration of Greece

    Chairman of the Executive

    Because Albania is a large and important part and its reunification with the Greek state can bring the best results.

    Because of the Suliot municipality and because the familiarity and the ties that has with Albanians, is the most competent tool to conclude agreements with the Albanians.

    Based on the agreement of National assembly body, with the Act of May 12 under No. 107,

    Ordered and orders the following:

    a) Suliotic municipality is authorized to lead negotiations to conclude agreements, as useful as possible with the Albanian Christians and Muslims.

    b) These agreements will not include more privileges than Suliots have for themselves.

    c) Suliot municipality is authorized to appoint one or more representatives to guide these negotiations.

    d) Hiljarhot32) George Pljesovica is also authorized, with the knowledge and consent of Suliot municipality, to lead negotiations with Chamuriot - Christians and Muslims to the same rules.

    e) Magnificent Hussein Pasha and Murto Cali, because they showed to be inherent of Suliots and faithfully attached to them, and because they operate with funds that are in addition to the contracts to be concluded with the Turks, they are authorized to negotiate under the same way, knowledge and consent of Suliot municipality.

    g) All contracts are concluded above will be ratified by the Administration.

    Minister of Internal Affairs will act on this command.

    In Corinth, on May 12, 1822.

    A. Mavrokordatos, president,

    Athanasios Kanakaris,

    Anagnostis Papajanopulos,

    Ioannis Logotetis,

    First Secretary of State, Minister for External Affairs, T. Negris 33).



    From this command of the Greek government is clearly how Albania is being treated and the Albanian population, any Christian, any Muslim, and which it aims. There are two reports from the Ministry of War, which required to empower Marco Bocaris and George Pljesovica to lead such negotiations with the Albanians - Muslims and Christians. Both bear the date May 10, 1822 year 34).

    It should be borne in mind also that this time the national consciousness in Greece was much more developed in comparison with other Balkan nations, and that thanks to their literature, economic prosperity, the activity of the Ecumenical Patriarchate and Phanariots, who for years worked for the restoration of the Byzantine Empire. It allowed the leadership of the rebellion to be in Greek hands, and after the uprising and the formation of the first Greek national state many of these participants to feel like Greeks and their descendants to assimilate as such.

    See scans:
    The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot
  • Daskalot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4345

    #2
    Impressive information Bratot! I would like to hear some comments on this enlightening article by our newly arrived Greek forum members. Any thoughts?
    Macedonian Truth Organisation

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      #3
      It all complicits greece in the great megali idea.That was alive back in the 1822 to this day.Greece has irrendist pretensions on it's neighbours.That's a good find bratot.
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • johnMKD
        Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 364

        #4
        Very interesting info, Bratot. Well done!

        Do we have the original text as well? I'd like to have a look at it, if possible
        Macedonian and proud!

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        • Bratot
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 2855

          #5
          It's taken from the journal "Glasnik" of the Institut for National History "INI":



          So far, we didn't get to the Greek original, but try to look for the number - 1.387
          -of the document and the reports from the Ministry of War, which bear the date May 10, 1822 year.

          The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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          • johnMKD
            Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 364

            #6
            Originally posted by Bratot View Post
            It's taken from the journal "Glasnik" of the Institut for National History "INI":



            So far, we didn't get to the Greek original, but try to look for the number - 1.387
            -of the document and the reports from the Ministry of War, which bear the date May 10, 1822 year.

            http://macedonianspark.com/en/histor.../462-----1822-
            I think I found it. But it's just the text and unfortunately not the original one scanned.

            Αριθ.1387.
            Προσωρινή Διοίκησις της Ελλάδος
            Ο Πρόεδρος του Εκτελεστικού

            «Επειδή η Αλβανία είναι μέγα και ουσιώδες μέρος και η ένωσίς της με την Επικράτειαν της Ελλάδος ειμπορεί να φέρη τα πλέον καλά αποτελέσματα.
            Επειδή το Κοινόν του Σουλίου και διά την πλησιότητα και διά τας σχέσεις τας οποίας έχει μετά των Αλβανών, είναι το αρμοδιώτερον μέσον διά να συνδεθώσι συμφωνίαι μετά των Αλβανών.
            Κατά την από ιβ’ Μαΐου υπ’αρ.107 έγγραφον συγκατάθεσιν του Βουλευτικού Σώματος.
            Διέταξε και διατάσσει τα ακόλουθα:
            α’) Το Κοινόν του Σουλίου έχει την άδειαν να πραγματευθή συμφωνίας, όσον είναι δυνατόν ωφελιμωτέρας, μετά των Αλβανών Χριστιανών τε και Τούρκων.
            β’) Αι συμφωνίαι αύται δεν θέλουν διαλαμβάνει περισσότερα προνόμια, αλλ’όσα έχουν οι ίδιοι Σουλιώται.
            γ’) Το Κοινόν του Σουλίου έχει την άδειαν να διορίση ένα ή και περισσοτέρους Επιτρόπους διά την πραγματείαν αυτών των συμφωνιών.
            δ’) Ο Χιλίαρχος Γεώργιος Πλεισιοβίτσας έχει ομοίως την άδειαν με την γνώμην και την συγκατάθεσιν του Κοινού του Σουλίου να πραγματευθή με τους Τσάμηδες, Χριστιανούς και Τούρκους, κατά τας αυτάς συμφωνίας.
            ε’) Ο Εκλαμπρότατος Χουσεΐν-Πασάς και ο Μούρτο Τσάλης, επειδή εφάνησαν αχώριστοι και πιστά ενωμένοι με τους Σουλιώτας, και επειδή έχουν το μέσον του να συντελέσουν εις τας συμφωνίας όπου θέλουν γενή με τους Τούρκους, έχουν την άδειαν να πραγματευθούν κατά τον αυτόν τρόπον με την γνώμην και την συγκατάθεσιν του Κοινού του Σουλίου.
            ς’ ) Όλαι αι μετά των ανωτέρω ρηθέντων γενόμεναι συμφωνίαι θέλουν επικυρωθή από την Διοίκησιν.

            Εν Κορίνθω τη ιβ’ Μαΐου, αωκβ’.
            Α.Μαυροκορδάτος, Πρόεδρος Αθανάσιος Κανακάρης
            Αναγνώστης Παπαγιαννόπουλος Ιωάννης Λογοθέτης
            Ο Αρχιγραμματεύς της Επικρατείας
            Μινίστρος των Εξωτερικών Υποθέσεων
            (Τ.Σ.) Θ.Νέγρης
            Macedonian and proud!

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            • Pelister
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2742

              #7
              Originally posted by Bratot
              It should be borne in mind also that this time the national consciousness in Greece was much more developed in comparison with other Balkan nations, and that thanks to their literature, economic prosperity, the activity of the Ecumenical Patriarchate and Phanariots ...
              Thats completely untrue.

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              • Bratot
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 2855

                #8
                I find that questionable as well, but I wouldn't agree that is 'completely' untrue.

                These plans for assimilation of other ethnic groups for the benefit of Greece does argue in favour of the quoted sentence.

                The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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                • tchaiku
                  Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 786

                  #9
                  Bump.............

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                  • Liberator of Makedonija
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 1595

                    #10
                    I think the revolutionaries would have wanted the entire Balkans under their Philhellenic state if they could have.
                    I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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