The other Internal Revolutionary Organisations

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  • Liberator of Makedonija
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 1595

    The other Internal Revolutionary Organisations

    Bulgaria claims Macedonians during the revolutionary period declaring themselves as such was nothing more than a regional phenomenon no different to Thrace or Dobruja. They try and back this up by pointing to the existence of the Internal Thracian and Dobrujan Revolutionary Organisations who fought for the autonomy of Thrace and Dobruja under the motto of 'Thrace for the Thracians' and 'Dobruja for the Dobrujans' and so state that Macedonians fighting for an autonomous Macedonia under the motto 'Maceonia for the Macedonians' is not an expression of independence from the Bulgarian nation.


    Starting this thread to look into these other organisations, I have a hunch there is a lot of historical revisionism in regards to them and wouldn't be surprised if they were all set-up by Sofia.

    This is the statute for the Internal Thracian Revolutionary Organisation published in 1923. It reads as: Art. 1. The Internal Thracian Revolutionary Organisation has the goal of uniting all the disgruntled elements in Thrace to the river Struma, regardless of their nationality, to win, through a revolution, a full political independence. Art. 2. The organisation is against any attempts and wishes for divisions and conquests of Thrace, from each ever state.




    Emblem of the Internal Dobrujan Revolutionary Organisation:


    There was also supposedly an Internal Western Outland Revolutionary Organization but they did not fight under any slogan or for autonomy, they apparently just wanted these territories to be annexed by Bulgaria. Haven't found much info on this lot yet.
    Last edited by Liberator of Makedonija; 07-18-2019, 09:21 PM.
    I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.
  • VMRO
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1462

    #2
    ITRO was formed by Tane Nikolov with the blessing of the Bulgarian government.

    At one time he was a VMRO vojvoda operating in the Lerin region and later Bitola/Veles.

    He even made the trip to Skopje in 1941 when Fascist Bulgaria occupied that part of Macedonia. Sad really as one time he was fighting for Macedonia's liberation and later became a tool of Bulgarian propaganda.


    Tane Nikolov as a VMRO vojvoda

    Tane Nikolov and Kosta Popeto in Skopje 1941

    Picture of Tane Nikolov in Skopje 1941

    Tane Nikolov - ITRO 1922
    Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.

    Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.

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    • Liberator of Makedonija
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 1595

      #3
      Originally posted by VMRO View Post
      ITRO was formed by Tane Nikolov with the blessing of the Bulgarian government.

      At one time he was a VMRO vojvoda operating in the Lerin region and later Bitola/Veles.

      He even made the trip to Skopje in 1941 when Fascist Bulgaria occupied that part of Macedonia. Sad really as one time he was fighting for Macedonia's liberation and later became a tool of Bulgarian propaganda.


      Tane Nikolov as a VMRO vojvoda

      Tane Nikolov and Kosta Popeto in Skopje 1941

      Picture of Tane Nikolov in Skopje 1941

      Tane Nikolov - ITRO 1922
      So you reckon VTRO was set-up by Sofia?
      I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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      • VMRO
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 1462

        #4
        Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View Post
        So you reckon VTRO was set-up by Sofia?
        100% and it was also disbanded by the Bulgarian government.
        Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.

        Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.

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        • Liberator of Makedonija
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 1595

          #5
          Originally posted by VMRO View Post
          100% and it was also disbanded by the Bulgarian government.
          Despite being formed by Sofia, their supposed goal was still an autonomus Thrace, not annexation by Bulgaria. Their motto was supposedly 'Thrace for the Thracians'. What do you reckon of that?
          I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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          • VMRO
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 1462

            #6
            Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View Post
            Despite being formed by Sofia, their supposed goal was still an autonomus Thrace, not annexation by Bulgaria. Their motto was supposedly 'Thrace for the Thracians'. What do you reckon of that?
            Bulgaria advocated this type of aspirations, especially when they were weak. Behind close doors they always believed in annexation - 1913 and 1941 are prime examples.

            They got a taste of the San Stefano borders and this has been in their minds ever since.
            Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.

            Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.

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            • Chicho Makedonski
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2019
              • 47

              #7
              So was Tane Nikolov an ethnic Macedonian or an ethnic Bulgarian?

              We know not only ethnic Macedonians were allowed to take part in the Ilinden Uprising but any regional Macedonian that supported the Macedonian cause like Vlach’s, Jews etc.

              Maybe Tane took part to spread pro Bulgarian ideas ? Maybe he was a secret spy for the Bulgarian government and only ‘friends’ with Goce Delchev to find out more inside information about the movement ? Maybe he was a tool of Bulgarian propaganda but there isn’t much evidence to say he was an ethnic Macedonian in my opinion considering he was later with ITRO and celebrated fascist Bulgaria’s occupation of Vardar Macedonia.

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              • Liberator of Makedonija
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 1595

                #8
                Originally posted by Chicho Makedonski View Post
                So was Tane Nikolov an ethnic Macedonian or an ethnic Bulgarian?

                We know not only ethnic Macedonians were allowed to take part in the Ilinden Uprising but any regional Macedonian that supported the Macedonian cause like Vlach’s, Jews etc.

                Maybe Tane took part to spread pro Bulgarian ideas ? Maybe he was a secret spy for the Bulgarian government and only ‘friends’ with Goce Delchev to find out more inside information about the movement ? Maybe he was a tool of Bulgarian propaganda but there isn’t much evidence to say he was an ethnic Macedonian in my opinion considering he was later with ITRO and celebrated fascist Bulgaria’s occupation of Vardar Macedonia.
                Nikolov was a Bulgarian, he was born is Haskovo.
                I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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