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  • Phoenix
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4671

    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
    Finland will end all COVID-19 restrictions next month, Prime Minister Sanna Marin said Monday.

    The UK, Czech Republic, Netherlands and Denmark have now abandoned most, if not all, Covid protocols.

    Meanwhile .... Western Australia is in 2020 (or Nazi Germany).

    The Hermit Kingdom of WA is proof that covid is more about politics than anything to do with a health crisis...the harder politicians like McGown locked down and isolated the higher their approval rating went...it was like the "I stand with Dan" crowd (and bots) in Victoria.

    Politicians always look at the polling before they make decisions, whenever public opinion turned, Chairman Dan eased up on his draconian regulations.

    Exactly the same concerns around polling were behind the ridiculous deportation of Djokovic before the AO...

    ScoMo's strategists had their finger on the pulse, they knew that most conversations around the dinner table at home, in the workplace and among friends were in favour of fucking Djokovic in the arse...with the common themes being:-

    "well, I had to get vaxxed, why shouldn't he..."

    and

    "why is he such an arrogant smart-arse, why doesn't he just disclose his vaccination status like the rest of us have..." and other such nonsense.

    The politicians are in it for themselves, fear is their greatest weapon, spin is the tool to deliver it to the masses, the more compliant we are the more we get fucked in the arse and our destiny and freedoms are in the hands of others.

    Politicians in the UK and other places have or are abandoning most measures because they have seen the tide of public opinion turn, that means their jobs are on the line and they're now moving with majority opinion.

    For everyone else, this shit-show will be over once the majority of us say...enough is enough.

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    • kompir
      Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 537

      Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
      I remember when the so called experts told us that lockdown was for 2 weeks to "flatten the curve", that was to protect the health system from being swamped by huge spikes in critical care cases.

      Two years since that stroke of genius everything is still on hold, elective surgeries keep getting cancelled, the backlog of low acuity medical procedures keeps getting pushed further and further into the future.

      Lockdowns have been a fucking disaster on so many levels...to lockdown almost 100% of society in order to "protect" 3-4% of the most vulnerable is absolutely nuts...imagine if the protection was targeted at the most vulnerable, instead of this brainless scorched Earth policy of universal lockdowns...and then there's the irrational cult-like lockdown adherents that believe that the lockdowns didn't work because we never went hard enough...people have gone fucking bat-shit crazy.

      Covid-19 the pandemic of stupidity.
      Couldn't agree with you more.

      Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
      Finland will end all COVID-19 restrictions next month, Prime Minister Sanna Marin said Monday.

      The UK, Czech Republic, Netherlands and Denmark have now abandoned most, if not all, Covid protocols.

      Meanwhile .... Western Australia is in 2020 (or Nazi Germany).

      There's a reason WA is known as Wait Awhile...
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      • kompir
        Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 537

        Oh and the TGA has stopped issuing their "COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report" since 2 December 2021:



        I can only imagine how bad the numbers are...
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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
          Politicians in the UK and other places have or are abandoning most measures because they have seen the tide of public opinion turn, that means their jobs are on the line and they're now moving with majority opinion.
          Some are saying the UK did a huge about turn once criminal charges for numerous serious crimes including misfeasance and misconduct in public office; gross negligence manslaughter; corporate manslaughter, murder, conspiracy to murder, genocide and crimes against humanity. were filed against the politicians, police, doctors etc. under case number 6029679/21 were filed.


          Friday, 07 January 2022 Metropolitan Police Crime Number: 6029679/21. International Criminal Court (The Hague) case number: OTP‐CR‐473/21 The world’s largest‐ever international criminal investigation is now under‐way, involving Hammersmith Police, The Metropolitan Police, and The International Criminal Court. The UK police accepted the supporting information and agreed there is enough evidence to proceed under the above...
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • kompir
            Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 537

            Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
            Some are saying the UK did a huge about turn once criminal charges for numerous serious crimes including misfeasance and misconduct in public office; gross negligence manslaughter; corporate manslaughter, murder, conspiracy to murder, genocide and crimes against humanity. were filed against the politicians, police, doctors etc. under case number 6029679/21 were filed.


            https://worldfreedomalliance.org/au/...public-health/
            That doesn't pass the pub test, it would make some sort of sense but seeking remedy from the same system that caused all this bullshit doesn't wash. Something else has forced the various govcos in Europe to back pedal faster than a Greek.

            Going over the brief that was allegedly filed with the ICC, opposing counsel will have a field day destroying it should this action ever go to trial.
            Last edited by kompir; 02-01-2022, 01:16 AM.
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            • Risto the Great
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 15658

              Better than nothing and incredibly useful for drawing attention to the less than savoury aspects of this fiasco. Dr Reiner Fuellmich is no slouch also.
              Risto the Great
              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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              • kompir
                Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 537

                Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                Better than nothing and incredibly useful for drawing attention to the less than savoury aspects of this fiasco. Dr Reiner Fuellmich is no slouch also.
                That's true.
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                • Risto the Great
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15658

                  Great news!
                  Moderna is now fully approved in USA. Same as Pfizer. This means that liability now rests with the manufacturers since the products have moved beyond emergency use authorisations.

                  Pro-vaccine people should be very grateful and have an increased confidence about their choices as a consequence. It's just positively heartwarming to see that the right thing is being done now.

                  Just one minor complication for the USA:

                  For some reason ... and I can't quite put my finger on it ... the approved Pfizer product is called Comirnaty and the approved Moderna product is called Spikevax. These are not in use anywhere in the USA whatsoever. Instead they are using the alternate versions which have retained the emergency use authorisations (and remain exempt from liability).

                  Feel free to look it up. Because the heartwarming story I was alluding to might just be inflammation.
                  Risto the Great
                  MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                  "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                  Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                  • kompir
                    Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 537

                    Don't get caught up in semantics Risto, the Pfizer cocktail has been commercially known as Comirnaty since December 2020:



                    From the Wayback Machine:

                    Last edited by kompir; 02-01-2022, 03:33 AM.
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                    • Risto the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15658

                      No. That's in Australia.
                      Not in USA.
                      It's a different product over there, for the reason I explained.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • kompir
                        Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 537

                        Any evidence for that Risto?
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                        • Risto the Great
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15658

                          Originally posted by kompir View Post
                          Any evidence for that Risto?
                          Just start searching, you will be surprised what you find.



                          2 Things Mainstream Media Didn’t Tell You About FDA’s Approval of Pfizer Vaccine

                          Buried in the fine print of Monday’s approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration of the Pfizer Comirnaty COVID vaccine are two critical facts that affect whether the vaccine can be mandated, and whether Pfizer can be held liable for injuries.

                          By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Meryl Nass, M.D.

                          Monday, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a biologics license application for the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine.

                          The press reported that vaccine mandates are now legal for military, healthcare workers, college students and employees in many industries. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has now required the vaccine for all teachers and school staff. The Pentagon is proceeding with its mandate for all military service members.

                          But there are several bizarre aspects to the FDA approval that will prove confusing to those not familiar with the pervasiveness of the FDA’s regulatory capture, or the depths of the agency’s cynicism.

                          First, the FDA acknowledges that while Pfizer has “insufficient stocks” of the newly licensed Comirnaty vaccine available, there is “a significant amount” of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine — produced under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) — still available for use.

                          The FDA decrees that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine under the EUA should remain unlicensed but can be used “interchangeably” (page 2, footnote 8) with the newly licensed Comirnaty product.

                          Second, the FDA pointed out that the licensed Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine and the existing, EUA Pfizer vaccine are “legally distinct,” but proclaims that their differences do not “impact safety or effectiveness.”

                          There is a huge real-world difference between products approved under EUA compared with those the FDA has fully licensed.

                          EUA products are experimental under U.S. law. Both the Nuremberg Code and federal regulations provide that no one can force a human being to participate in this experiment. Under 21 U.S. Code Sec.360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III), “authorization for medical products for use in emergencies,” it is unlawful to deny someone a job or an education because they refuse to be an experimental subject. Instead, potential recipients have an absolute right to refuse EUA vaccines.

                          U.S. laws, however, permit employers and schools to require students and workers to take licensed vaccines.

                          EUA-approved COVID vaccines have an extraordinary liability shield under the 2005 Public Readiness and Preparedness Act. Vaccine manufacturers, distributors, providers and government planners are immune from liability. The only way an injured party can sue is if he or she can prove willful misconduct, and if the U.S. government has also brought an enforcement action against the party for willful misconduct. No such lawsuit has ever succeeded.

                          The government has created an extremely stingy compensation program, the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, to redress injuries from all EUA products. The program’s parsimonious administrators have compensated under 4% of petitioners to date — and not a single COVID vaccine injury — despite the fact that physicians, families and injured vaccine recipients have reported more than 600,000 COVID vaccine injuries.

                          At least for the moment, the Pfizer Comirnaty vaccine has no liability shield. Vials of the branded product, which say “Comirnaty” on the label, are subject to the same product liability laws as other U.S. products.

                          When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices places a vaccine on the mandatory schedule, a childhood vaccine benefits from a generous retinue of liability protections.

                          But licensed adult vaccines, including the new Comirnaty, do not enjoy any liability shield. Just as with Ford’s exploding Pinto, or Monsanto’s herbicide Roundup, people injured by the Comirnaty vaccine could potentially sue for damages.

                          And because adults injured by the vaccine will be able to show that the manufacturer knew of the problems with the product, jury awards could be astronomical.

                          Pfizer is therefore unlikely to allow any American to take a Comirnaty vaccine until it can somehow arrange immunity for this product.

                          Given this background, the FDA’s acknowledgement in its approval letter that there are insufficient stocks of the licensed Comirnaty, but an abundant supply of the EUA Pfizer BioNTech jab, exposes the “approval” as a cynical scheme to encourage businesses and schools to impose illegal jab mandates.

                          The FDA’s clear motivation is to enable Pfizer to quickly unload inventories of a vaccine that science and the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System have exposed as unreasonably dangerous, and that the Delta variant has rendered obsolete.
                          Now feel free to search for the availability of Comirnaty in USA.
                          Now see what a USA federal judge thought about the bait and switch:

                          Federal judge rejected the Department of Defenses’ claim that Pfizer’s Comirnaty vaccine is legally interchangeable with Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.


                          Federal Judge rejects Pfizer’s interchangeability and questions the existence of Comirnaty

                          Debates surrounding Pfizer’s FDA approved Comirnaty vaccine continue as a Federal District Judge recently weighed in on the matter. Judge Allen Winsor of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida, whom President Donald J. Trump nominated in 2018, rejected the Department of Defenses’ (DOD) claim that Pfizer’s approved Comirnaty vaccine is interchangeable with their Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, which remains authorized for emergency use (EUA).

                          The significance of Judge Winsor’s opinion

                          Allen Winsor
                          In an order issued Nov. 12 in Doe et al. v. Austin, Winsor denied the preliminary injunction requested by more than 15 service members against the Military’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate. Despite denying the request, Winsor’s opinion in the case is significant.

                          “[T]he DOD cannot mandate vaccines that only have an EUA,” he stated. Although Pfizer’s Comirnaty vaccine received FDA approval in August, the vials in circulation are still labeled for Emergency Use Authorization (EAU). And as the Johnson & Johnson and Moderna vaccines remain under EUA, there is currently no approved COVID-19 vaccine available to the servicemen.

                          To view the order in its entirety click here.

                          FDA official unable to prove Comirnaty “exists at all” in court
                          What’s more, Judge Winsor noted that “the plaintiffs have shown that the DOD is requiring injections from vials not labeled ‘Comirnaty.’ Indeed, defense counsel could not even say whether vaccines labeled ‘Comirnaty’ exist at all.”

                          Considering one of the defendants is Janet Woodcock, the Acting Commissioner of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, it is striking that the defense was unable to prove the existence of the only FDA approved vaccine in the U.S.

                          Medically but not legally interchangeable
                          Winsor also addressed the interchangeability concept that is central to the plaintiffs’ argument. While sites like Reuters and Factcheck.org have covered the science behind how Pfizer’s EAU vaccine is interchangeable with their FDA approved one, Winsor gave a legal opinion on the matter.

                          Recounting the plaintiffs’ argument against interchangeability, the judge states, “If the FDA’s goal were to ‘retroactively license’ the EUA vaccine, it had an odd way of doing so—in the same footnote describing the EUA vaccine and Comirnaty as ‘interchangeabl[e],’ the FDA clarifies that the two products are ‘legally distinct.’”

                          Evaluating this crucial distinction, he explained that “the FDA nowhere claims that EUA vaccine had been licensed as ‘interchangeable’ with Comirnaty.” In that same section of the order, Winsor states that the FDA used the word interchangeable in a practical sense, not a legal one, in its approval documents for the vaccine, and that it was more of a “medical claim, rather than a regulatory claim.”

                          All of Pfizer’s vaccines, then, that don’t have “Comirnaty” on the label are not FDA approved products. “As a legal matter,” Winsor says, “vaccines sent before August 23—and vaccines produced after August 23 in unapproved facilities—remain ‘product[s] authorized for emergency use under section 564 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.'”

                          These statements strengthen the “bait and switch” arguments organizations such as Children’s Health Defense and the Liberty Counsel made upon Comirnaty’s approval. In sum, they claim that the FDA issued approval for a vaccine that’s unavailable to citizens so that the Biden administration could enact vaccine mandates.

                          In mid-September, the Lynnwood Times also had questions regarding the interchangeability of Pfizer’s EAU vaccine with Comirnaty—bringing attention to the “certain differences” and “legally distinct” portions in the FDA’s approval letter. And although clarifications were issued from the Center for Disease Control and other reputable sources, Winsor’s assertions in court warrant revisiting the subject.

                          The local search for Comirnaty
                          While Doe et al. v. Austin is happening in the Northern District of Florida, the Times’ staff surveyed pharmacies across Snohomish County to see if the Comirnaty vaccine is locally available.

                          Out of the ten pharmacies contacted from Lynnwood to Monroe, only eight had Pfizer vaccines in stock. But of those eight, none of them had a vial with “Comirnaty” on the label. Most pharmacy techs relayed how they were using the same Pfizer vaccines they’ve had since the beginning.

                          Though it is a considerably small sample size, it has been about three and a half months since the FDA licensed Pfizer’s Cormirnaty vaccine, and it still appears to be unavailable. (Please contact the Lynnwood Times if you have information regarding Comirnaty vaccines available in Snohomish County).

                          Chris Beyrer, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, did note that Comirnaty’s arrival might take a while. Back in August, Beyrer explained to the Washington Post that the Pfizer vaccines manufactured before the FDA’s approval cannot legally be branded as Comirnaty even though they’re the same formulation.

                          “That’s why there may be, for some time, EUA Pfizer doses in use before [fully approved] Comirnaty becomes more widely available,” Beyrer said. “This is standard, nothing unusual, and [it] does not void an EUA.”

                          EAU products and the option to accept or refuse
                          If Pfizer’s approved and EAU vaccines are only interchangeable medically but not legally, as Winsor’s opinion indicates, that could impact vaccine mandates across the country. Though debates about whether or not EAU vaccines are considered “experimental” continue—more on that in a moment—American law allows citizens to refuse EUA vaccination and the consequences thereof.

                          According to United States Code, specifically 21 U.S. Code Sec.360bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III) regarding “Authorization for medical products for use in emergencies,” a required condition of an EUA product is “the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.”

                          Given this law, whether or not EAU vaccines are considered “experimental” is immaterial when it comes to one’s right to refuse vaccination. Regarding the issue, on one hand, USA Today asserts that the vaccines are not experimental because they still had to undergo testing and approval. And on the other, the Children’s Health Defense claims that “EUA products are considered experimental under U.S. law,” citing the FDA’s website.

                          Despite the denial of the preliminary injunction, Judge Winsor’s opinion may prove to be instrumental in substantiating arguments against vaccine mandates, which many have taken to courts across the states. As the New York Times reported last month, 11 states sue the Biden administration over its vaccination mandate for large companies.

                          Americans, told that the Pfizer COVID vaccine is now licensed, will understandably assume COVID vaccine mandates are lawful. But only EUA-authorized vaccines, for which no one has any real liability, will be available during the next few weeks when many school mandate deadlines occur.

                          The FDA appears to be purposefully tricking American citizens into giving up their right to refuse an experimental product.

                          While the media has trumpeted that the FDA has approved COVID vaccines, the FDA has not approved the Pfizer BioNTech vaccines, nor any COVID vaccines for the 12- to 15-year age group, nor any booster doses for anyone.

                          And the FDA has not licensed any Moderna vaccine, nor any vaccine from Johnson & Johnson — so the vast majority, if not all, of vaccines available in the U.S. remain unlicensed EUA products.

                          Here’s what you need to know when somebody orders you to get the vaccine: Ask to see the vial. If it says “Comirnaty,” it’s a licensed product.

                          If it says “Pfizer-BioNTech,” it’s an experimental product, and under 21 U.S. Code 360bbb, you have the right to refuse.

                          If it comes from Moderna or Johnson & Johnson (marketed as Janssen), you have the right to refuse.

                          The FDA is playing bait and switch with the American public — but we don’t have to play along. If it doesn’t say Comirnaty, you have not been offered an approved vaccine.
                          Rest assured, SPIKEVAX will be a similar scam.
                          Last edited by Risto the Great; 02-01-2022, 06:31 AM.
                          Risto the Great
                          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                          • kompir
                            Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 537

                            I've had those bookmarked since they were published, and this paragraph from the filing in the Floria court was telling:

                            On August 23, 2021—roughly eight months after the EUA first became
                            effective—the FDA approved a Biologics License Application (“BLA”) and issued
                            a full FDA license to produce and distribute the vaccine and label it with its
                            proprietary name, “Comirnaty.”
                            ECF No. 1-4 at 2-3. The BLA approval requires that
                            Pfizer produce Comirnaty only at approved locations, subject to specific
                            manufacturing, packaging, and labeling requirements. Id. at 2
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                            • Risto the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15658

                              Meanwhile, it's nowhere to be found in USA.
                              Risto the Great
                              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                              • kompir
                                Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 537

                                ^ That is a lot harder to check, however in Australia, both labelings of the Pfizer product sit side by side in the freezers at a client.
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