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  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13670

    #16
    Orban supports EU-entry for Serbia and some other Balkan countries, no doubt seeing the potential of greater cooperation and alignment between more socially conservative peoples as a bulwark against the incessant progressivism of the West.
    https://infomax.mk/wp/o%D1%80%D0%B1%...7%D0%B8%D1%98/

    (Translation) Hungary's proposals for the future of the EU are: In Brussels they are building such a superpower for which no one has given authorization. We say "no" to the European empire. Integration is a means, not an end in itself. Basic EU treaties should erase commitment to 'closer union among nations in Europe' Decisions should be made by elected leaders, not international NGOs! We say no to outsourcing the rule of law. The strength of European integration is ensured by common economic successes. If we can not be more successful together than individually, then that is the end of the European Union. The next decade will be a period of dangerous challenges: we are threatened by mass migration and pandemics. We must protect the people of Europe. We must restore European democracy. The European Parliament has proved to be a dead end: it represents only its own ideological and institutional interests. The roles of national parliaments need to be increased.
    But the EU is unleashing one of its dogs on Poland, which shares similar views to Hungary.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ry-2021-07-03/

    WARSAW, July 3 (Reuters) - Former European Council President Donald Tusk returned to the fore of Polish politics on Saturday, becoming leader of the main opposition party in a move that revives a duel with his longstanding foe Jaroslaw Kaczynski. For many in the liberal Civic Platform (PO) party that Tusk helped to found, the stakes are nothing less than Poland's future in the European Union. Elections scheduled for 2023 will determine if the governing nationalist Law and Justice (PiS) party, led by Kaczynski, will continue its disputes with Brussels over issues including judicial reforms that the EU says undermine the independence of judges and LGBT rights. "Civic Platform is indispensable, it is needed as a force, not as a memory, to win the fight for the future against PiS," Tusk told a PO congress in Warsaw. "There is no chance of victory without Civic Platform, and our history tells us that." The rivalry between Tusk and Kaczynski is both deeply personal and emblematic of the division between the pro-European economic and social liberalism of PO, and the conservative social values and left-leaning economics of PiS, which to a large degree defines the Polish political landscape. Speaking on Saturday at a PiS congress in Warsaw - where he was re-elected leader for what he said would be the last time - Kaczynski contrasted what he said were improvements in living standards under PiS to the elitism he said preceded their rule. "This group (the elite) was to dominate ... (and) all the rest were supposed to agree to a modest, poor and sometimes miserable life," he said. "We have restored ... the dignity of people, the dignity of work by raising wages, a very significant increase in pensions, raising the minimum wage."
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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    • Soldier of Macedon
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 13670

      #17
      Interesting development, but not surprising.
      https://www.euronews.com/2021/07/05/...eu-s-direction

      Right-wing populist parties in Europe have made a huge step towards unifying themselves after 16 right-wing populist parties from 14 countries issued a joint statement calling for a European Union based on sovereign member states instead of a federal bloc, as they say, is currently envisaged. The main forces behind the declaration are the Polish ruling party, Law and Justice, Viktor Orbαn's Fidesz, Marine Le Pen's National Rally, with Matteo Salvini's Lega and Georgia Meloni's Brothers of Italy also present. However, Germany's nationalist party Alternative for Germany is missing from the "gathering of European patriots". Gerolf Annemans, an MEP from the Belgian-Flemish right-wing populist party included in the group, told Euronews that the idea behind the movement is to take the EU in a different direction. "We think that European cooperation can be useful and in some cases necessary, but only on the basis of free nations that cooperate together in a free way," Annemans said.

      "So, not what the European Union has become, a judicial system integrated with a severe punishing system and one nation-state above all the others. That is not the European cooperation that we want. We want an alternative and we think that European cooperation deserves a better union." The formation of a new political group in the European Parliament could eventually be on the table, as the Belgian nationalist explains. "Well, of course, this could be the aim, but that is not on the agenda now - that is not the most urgent thing. The most urgent thing is that the Conference on the Future of Europe needs other answers for the design of European Cooperation and that we have to unify our efforts. The group is something for later and it's more complicated," Annemans said on Monday. The possibility of a new populist right-wing force is not an immediate risk for the current Brussels establishment, according to VoteWatch Europe analyst Doru Frantescu, as the number of their MEPs will remain the same. But he says in the long term, it could eventually shape decision-making in the EU.

      "It is an important signal that shows that across the continent there is a certain concentration of dissatisfaction with certain policies of the European Union. We have to take into consideration that these parties do disagree on many issues, but where they agree, is on cultural issues - the identitarian issues - them being dissatisfied with what they perceive as the policies of the EU that affect family values, the identitarian composition of their countries," Frantescu told Euronews. "On the other hand, we should not overestimate the importance of this movement, because in practical terms this does not change too much the balance of power in current European politics." Frantescu added that if their parties manage to remain a coherent force by the time of the 2024 European elections, they could have a chance of positioning themselves as the main opposition force in the next European Parliament.
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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      • Risto the Great
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 15658

        #18
        When the EU money dries up (and it will), we will see the EU fall apart. I look forward to it but hope we don't also see war as a consequence.
        Risto the Great
        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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        • Carlin
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 3332

          #19
          Will EU expel Hungary? Will they also consider expelling Bulgaria for its policy of brutal denial and negation of Macedonians?

          Hungary 'has no place in the EU anymore,' Dutch leader says

          URL:
          Hungary "has no place" in the European Union after passing a controversial new bill banning LGBTQ content in schools, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said on Thursday.


          (CNN) Hungary "has no place" in the European Union after passing a controversial new bill banning LGBTQ content in schools, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said on Thursday.

          Earlier this month Hungary's parliament passed legislation which bans all educational materials and programs for children which are considered to promote homosexuality, gender reassignment and the concept of sexuality deviating from the one assigned to a person at birth.

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          • Soldier of Macedon
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 13670

            #20
            Originally posted by Carlin View Post
            Will EU expel Hungary? Will they also consider expelling Bulgaria for its policy of brutal denial and negation of Macedonians?
            The chances of either scenario are somewhere next to zero.
            https://www.aa.com.tr/mk/%D0%B1%D0%B...%D0%B4/2298246

            Клучот за стабилноста на регионот е Србија, а додека Србија не биде интегрирана во Европската Унија ни Западен Балкан нема да биде интегриран, изјави унгарскиот премиер Виктор Орбан во Белград, јавува Агенција Анадолија.
            Orban insists that Serbia must be integrated into the EU before the rest of the western Balkans. But that means Serbia will need to recognise Kosovo. If the EU try to accept Macedonia before Serbia, Hungary may be the next country to veto. However the situation may develop, Macedonia isn't getting into the EU any time soon.
            https://www.dw.com/mk/%D0%BE%D1%80%D...%BB/a-58200881

            „Тоа нема врска ни со Србија, ни со Вучиќ“, уверен е Ерик Горди, професор на Универзитетскиот колеџ во Лондон и добар познавач на Балканот. „Орбан добро знае дека ни Србија ниту која било друга земја нема да биде примена во членство во догледна иднина. Во неговата реченица, Србија е шифра за тврдата десница, со оглед на тоа што не може да ги промовира Полска и Словенија кои се веќе дел од ЕУ“. „Доколку ова нешто зборува за Србија, тогаш тоа е дека западнала во лошо друштво. А доколку тоа нешто зборува за Европа, тогаш тоа е уште еден знак дека со некохерентната политика го намалила своето влијание во регионот“, наведува Горди за ДВ.
            No new members in the foreseeable future. At least he's honest enough to admit it.
            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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