Russia, Ukraine and the West

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Carlin

Breaking: Israel launches "special military operation" inside Iran

https://mobile.twitter.com/officejjs...81603532795904

Just one more step closer to WWIII…hard to believe that Iran won’t retaliate in some major way.

[Carlin]

Richard Kemp, retired British army commander:

"I think that, unfortunately, they [Russians] are hammering the Ukrainians to hell with artillery, and then they go to mop them up. But I think that in the end, unfortunately, they will probably prevail in the east of Ukraine."

https://mobile.twitter.com/AZgeopoli...DSvePlkPgsAAAA

[Carlin]

FRENCH TV DISCUSSES PROSPECT OF ETHNIC CLEANSING OF RUSSIANS IN CRIMEA

https://mobile.twitter.com/The_Real_...DSzYjguv4sAAAA

[Carlin]

A Turkish news outlet published what is alleged to be a leaked Mossad intelligence assessment of Russian and Kiev Regime battlefield losses in the conflict.

All casualties and losses add up to:

Kiev: 416,000
Moscow: 63,000

This is a 7-to-1 ratio.

The KIA figures dovetail exactly with reports from Col. Douglas Macgregor and the BBC.

Macgregor has stated pubicly that Kiev has lost 157,000 troops. The BBC recently estimated Russia had lost between 12,000 and 20,000 troops, which fits the 18,480 Mossad figure.

https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/...Cx_bWDpYQtAAAA

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Carlin

A Turkish news outlet published what is alleged to be a leaked Mossad intelligence assessment of Russian and Kiev Regime battlefield losses in the conflict.

All casualties and losses add up to:

Kiev: 416,000
Moscow: 63,000

This is a 7-to-1 ratio.

The KIA figures dovetail exactly with reports from Col. Douglas Macgregor and the BBC.

Macgregor has stated pubicly that Kiev has lost 157,000 troops. The BBC recently estimated Russia had lost between 12,000 and 20,000 troops, which fits the 18,480 Mossad figure.

https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/...Cx_bWDpYQtAAAA

Some truly horrifying numbers are being thrown around at the moment...a little while ago, president of the European Commission, von der Leyen was trying to walk back a figure of 100K that she claimed had been KIA on the Ukrainian side...just last week, Croatia president Milanović was floating a figure of at least 150K by now... (based on the figure that von der Leyen had previously announced).

There are now claims that Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Valery Zaluzhny has informed his American handlers of 257K KIA.
(stated by Col. D. McGregor)

Throughout history the futility of war has been spoken about, written about, studied and debated but nothing seems to alter the course of meaningless self destruction.

Ukraine quickly exhausting its pool of fit, healthy, mature and well trained men is now throwing inexperienced and poorly equipped 16 and 17 year old boys into the Bakhmut meat grinder where Ukrainian media are reporting a life expectancy of 4 hours for the wretched souls sent there on behalf of the American hegemony project that demands that Ukraine fight to the last Ukrainian.

Sadly Ukraine is running at breakneck speed to its very last Ukrainian, already by many estimations, some 10 million Ukrainians have poured into Western Europe (and Russia), some 53% (as claimed by some pundits recently) of the Ukrainian military has been destroyed in a mere 12 months of the relentless Russian SMO.

Since 2014, the Americans with their NATO partners have been pouring billions of dollars into arming and training Ukrainians, lines of 3 tier fortifications were scarred deeply into the earth to keep the Russians at bay whilst Ukrainian nazi's were given free reign to terrorise the ethnic Russians of Eastern Ukraine on a daily basis and the hegemon, just arrogantly smirked and poked the bear.

Hubris has an uncanny ability to double down on stupid, like some karmic law of the universe the hegemon and the great project of the west to destroy and dismantle Russia and subjugate the Russian people is slowly backfiring in the most spectacular of fashions.
Like every previous major war the time comes when momentum reaches a tipping point in favour of one side, this is marked by an ever accelerating loss of life that becomes unsustainable very quickly, much like what the nazi's suffered in the death throes of WWII...Ukraine is at that tipping point NOW...what comes in the weeks and months ahead won't have been seen inflicted on an enemy in close to 80 years.

I feel so sad for the average Ukrainian, talk about being sold the most glittering of turds, shame on Zelensky and every other Ukrainian whore that has profited from the pain and suffering needlessly inflicted on innocent Ukrainians who were seen as nothing more than cannon fodder and the dispensable pawns in a global 4D chess game that was rigged from the beginning to guarantee the primacy of the hegemon...

The best-laid plans of mice and men...

[Risto the Great]

It seems Ukraine is too important for this new world order that is forming. I fear (extra) external intervention. Escalation seems inevitable to me.

As a self avowed conspiracy theorist, I'm left wondering if Putin is in on it - in one way or another. Everyone takes home a prize (except for the Ukranian people).

In any case, the Ukranians are suffering. Meanwhile, Russell Brand is absolutely exquisite in his assessments here:

https://youtu.be/HtOsKvFdhjg

[Vangelovski]

Seems Russia has launched its much-awaited offensive in the Donbass. The next week or so will show whether it's going to have any success, though I wouldn't hold your breath. Prigozhin estimates that it would take between 1.5 to 2 years just for Russia to capture the rest of the Donbass (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-...ears/101962380). That basically means never.

NATO supplies of Tanks, APCs, IFVs, howitzers, and long-range missiles are due over the next few months. I have little doubt NATO war planes will arrive at the same time. Ukraine will have a complete package for advanced combined arms warfare (something the Russians have never managed to understand in theory or practice even though it's the basis of modern warfare since WWII) for a counter offensive once the Russians have run out of steam in their self-created meat grinder of WWI artillery barrage followed by pointless human infantry waves.

For anyone that is interested in a good article about the state of the Russian armed forces (which really are reflective of the state of Russia and its society), the below is a really good one. Might have a paywall, but if you don't read the NY Times regularly, I think you're entitled to four free articles:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-ukraine.html

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Some truly horrifying numbers are being thrown around at the moment...a little while ago, president of the European Commission, von der Leyen was trying to walk back a figure of 100K that she claimed had been KIA on the Ukrainian side...just last week, Croatia president Milanović was floating a figure of at least 150K by now... (based on the figure that von der Leyen had previously announced).

There are now claims that Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Valery Zaluzhny has informed his American handlers of 257K KIA.
(stated by Col. D. McGregor)

Throughout history the futility of war has been spoken about, written about, studied and debated but nothing seems to alter the course of meaningless self destruction.

Ukraine quickly exhausting its pool of fit, healthy, mature and well trained men is now throwing inexperienced and poorly equipped 16 and 17 year old boys into the Bakhmut meat grinder where Ukrainian media are reporting a life expectancy of 4 hours for the wretched souls sent there on behalf of the American hegemony project that demands that Ukraine fight to the last Ukrainian.

Sadly Ukraine is running at breakneck speed to its very last Ukrainian, already by many estimations, some 10 million Ukrainians have poured into Western Europe (and Russia), some 53% (as claimed by some pundits recently) of the Ukrainian military has been destroyed in a mere 12 months of the relentless Russian SMO.

Since 2014, the Americans with their NATO partners have been pouring billions of dollars into arming and training Ukrainians, lines of 3 tier fortifications were scarred deeply into the earth to keep the Russians at bay whilst Ukrainian nazi's were given free reign to terrorise the ethnic Russians of Eastern Ukraine on a daily basis and the hegemon, just arrogantly smirked and poked the bear.

Hubris has an uncanny ability to double down on stupid, like some karmic law of the universe the hegemon and the great project of the west to destroy and dismantle Russia and subjugate the Russian people is slowly backfiring in the most spectacular of fashions.
Like every previous major war the time comes when momentum reaches a tipping point in favour of one side, this is marked by an ever accelerating loss of life that becomes unsustainable very quickly, much like what the nazi's suffered in the death throes of WWII...Ukraine is at that tipping point NOW...what comes in the weeks and months ahead won't have been seen inflicted on an enemy in close to 80 years.

I feel so sad for the average Ukrainian, talk about being sold the most glittering of turds, shame on Zelensky and every other Ukrainian whore that has profited from the pain and suffering needlessly inflicted on innocent Ukrainians who were seen as nothing more than cannon fodder and the dispensable pawns in a global 4D chess game that was rigged from the beginning to guarantee the primacy of the hegemon...

The best-laid plans of mice and men...

Those poor Ukrainian fools. If only they weren't being brainwashed into thinking they're a separate ethnic/national people who want to determine their own affairs and run their own state they would willingly embrace the warm brotherly Russian offer of subjugation and defer to Moscow's orders. Why don't they just capitulate?

Sounds very familiar....but you used to oppose that sort of thinking.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Those poor Ukrainian fools. If only they weren't being brainwashed into thinking they're a separate ethnic/national people who want to determine their own affairs and run their own state they would willingly embrace the warm brotherly Russian offer of subjugation and defer to Moscow's orders. Why don't they just capitulate?

If only they didn't defer to USA already. Reminds me of Macedonia (except Macedonia has nothing to offer in comparison to Ukraine).

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1...606628865?s=20

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Those poor Ukrainian fools. If only they weren't being brainwashed into thinking they're a separate ethnic/national people who want to determine their own affairs and run their own state they would willingly embrace the warm brotherly Russian offer of subjugation and defer to Moscow's orders. Why don't they just capitulate?

Sounds very familiar....but you used to oppose that sort of thinking.

The thing I oppose is not ones right to self determination or the pursuit of a better life (in all of its shapes and colours, or whatever that means to the individual)...the thing I greatly oppose is the way Ukrainians have been used to do the dirty work of the US...what I oppose is the relentless march of NATO further east and on the doorstep of a nuclear armed nation...I oppose the constant poking and prodding by the US and its lackey allies that could lead to a global nuclear conflict, one that will lead to the destruction of everything on this planet

If Ukraine had patriotic leaders serving the best interests of their people, they probably have/had every opportunity to achieve their wishes.
Ukraine is/was a country rich in natural resources and industrial capacity...all it needs is honest politicians that put the nation and people ahead of everything else...instead it is the most corrupt shithole in Europe.

So don't give me this nonsense that the Ukrainian people are having their rights to freedom taken away from them by the 'big bad russians'...they're doing it to themselves under the pretence of seeking freedom, all the Ukrainian leadership want is the freedom to act with impunity and to fleece the state, all under the impotent and uncaring gaze of that beacon of hope and freedom, the USA.

Sort of reminds me about America's role in a little corner of the Balkans as well...