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  • TrueMacedonian
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    • Jan 2009
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    Macedonia and the Macedonians during the Ottoman Era




    Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
  • TrueMacedonian
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    • Jan 2009
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    #2


    page 17
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    • julie
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      • May 2009
      • 3869

      #3
      TrueMacedonian, you are awesome! And I would say you would probably have some library in your home. Thanks for all the fantastic reading
      "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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      • TrueMacedonian
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        • Jan 2009
        • 3810

        #4
        Thanks Julie Have a look at this;




        And here's some info on Müezzinzade Ali Pasha and what year he died - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCezzinzade_Ali_Pasha
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        • osiris
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          • Sep 2008
          • 1969

          #5
          again i dont see a greek or slav macedonian identity only macedonian.

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          • TrueMacedonian
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 3810

            #6
            BATTLE OF LEPANTO

            But the loss of Cyprus and the massacre of the Venetian soldiers was nobly avenged in the great battle between the hostile fleets which took place in the Gulf of Lepanto, on the 7th October. The inactivity of the fleet in the war with Cyprus was chiefly owing to the non-fulfilment of terms made by Spain, but the victories of the Turks roused that nation to action, and in August they assembled at Messina one of the most powerful fleets that ever took part in a battle at sea. Spain and Venice had between them 200 galleys of large size, and 100 transports, and they carried 50,000 infantry and 4,500 horses. Don John, of Spain, was in command of one section, and the other was under the direction of Sebastiano Venierio. After cruising about the Gulf of Venice and the Mediterranean they entered the Archipelago, and on the 7th October the opposing armaments came in sight of each other in the Gulf of Lepanto. The Turks had a fleet of 200 ships, under Mahomed Siroco, Governor of Alexandria and King of Algiers, and the Capudan Ali. The appearance of the Turks gave the greatest pleasure to the Christian allies. They prepared for battle with alacrity, and as they neared each other the sounds of trumpets and of drums were heard from the Christian ships, while from every portion flags and banners were waving in the air. All the Christian slaves on board the combined fleets, who had been condemned to work at the oars for their crimes, were unchained, armed like their brethren, and exhorted to fight for the cause of Christ. The cannon on board the allied vessels was largely in excess of the number carried by the Turks, and the allied soldiers were armed with a greater number of guns than the Turks, whose chief weapons were bows of several kinds. Conspicuous above all the other ships in the fleet of the Turks was the vessel which bore the Capudan Ali. There was no ship afloat that could compare to it for the beauty of its dimensions and for the excellence of its furniture. The deck was made of walnut inlaid with different coloured woods, setting forth scenes of celebrated battles fought by the soldiers of his country. The cabin was decorated with rich hangings, wrought with gold thread and set with precious stones; in thelockers there was a large number of gold and silver vessels of great beauty and workmanship, while the apparel which Ali himself was accustomed to wear filled several cabins, and consisted of cloths of gold and silver adorned with jewels. On the prow of the vessel there was a silver staff, from the top of which floated the banner of the Sultan. In the encounter Don John and Ali sought out each other's vessels and engaged in deadly conflict. Three times the gallant Spaniard, seconded by his men, climbed into the Turkish ship, and drove the crew to take refuge round the mainmast, and three times were the Spaniards and the Venetians driven back again to their own vessels, leaving only dead on the deck of the ship behind them. Seeing the enormous superiority of the Turkish ship, two Venetian vessels bore down to the assistance of Don John, while, on the other hand, Ali summoned several vessels to his assistance, and the ships continued to fight for some time longer. In the course of the battle two Venetian captains, fighting side by side with Don John, were slain, and the Spanish commander was himself wounded slightly by an arrow, but nothing could avert the Christians from continuing their attacks. Ultimately a Macedonian soldier, serving on one of the Venetian ships, whose captain was slain, recognizing Ali on the deck of his vessel, took deliberate aim and fired a shot which struck the Turkish commander on the breast and killed him. The moment he fell his soldiers became dispirited, threw down their arms, and received quarter. The head of Ali was severed from his body and fixed on the point of his own mast, so that it could be seen by the whole fleet.
            Stories of Venice and the Venetians By John B. Marsh pages 403-405.
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            • TrueMacedonian
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 3810

              #7
              If my conjectures are right, the time appointed is the time of the Reformation. Our Reformers translated and circulated theholy scriptures, in spite of the mischief and lies of the king of the south. They performed another great service also: they were the means of restoring to us the only security that was ever given to man.
              " The Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world ;" and where his blood was sprinkled, the destroying angel had no power. " Drink ye all of this," said our Saviour, when he gave the cup. But popery had denied the cup to the laity, and made an idol of the bread. The Church of England returned to the Catholic and Apostolic faith; and Mahometanism, the abomination that maketh desolate, began to lose that power, which had hitherto been the terror of Christendom. The arms of the king of the south were successful. The Mahometan came toward the south, but it was not as it had been before, neither as it is to be hereafter. The ships of Chittim, i. e. of the Goths , came against him, and his marine was ruined by the battle of Lepanto. " Therefore shall he be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant. So shall he do; he shall even return and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant." Very soon after the Mahometan had returned from Lepanto, he punished the Christians of Albania and Macedonia.
              An inquiry into the truth of history pages 105-106
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              • TrueMacedonian
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                • Jan 2009
                • 3810

                #8

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                • Makedonetz
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1080

                  #9
                  TrueMacedonian

                  Fantastic information love the books i have more to read
                  Makedoncite se borat
                  za svoite pravdini!

                  "The one who works for joining of Macedonia to Bulgaria,Greece or Serbia can consider himself as a good Bulgarian, Greek or Serb, but not a good Macedonian"
                  - Goce Delchev

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                  • TrueMacedonian
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3810

                    #10


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                    • DirtyCodingHabitz
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 835

                      #11
                      This will come in handy if I start a battle with grci or tatarite on other forum

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                      • TrueMacedonian
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3810

                        #12



                        (posted in the Macedonian Immigrants topic also)
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                        • TrueMacedonian
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                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3810

                          #13
                          This book was written in 1683.



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                          • George S.
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                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10116

                            #14
                            TM thanks for the detail.Great stuff.
                            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                            GOTSE DELCEV

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                            • TrueMacedonian
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 3810

                              #15
                              Some costume art I found: http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypld...2&e=r#_seemore




                              Image Title
                              : [Macedonian woman, 17th century.]
                              Original Source
                              : From Costumes anciens et modernes : habiti antichi e moderni di tutto il mondo. Firmin Didot, 1859-1860) Vecellio, Cesare (ca. 1521-1601), Author.
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