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  • afterhours
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    #31
    Originally posted by makedonin View Post
    Second, you fail to number any city state adopting Attic Greek.
    How bout Macedonia? Does that work for starters?

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    • afterhours
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      #32
      Originally posted by makedonin View Post
      Please provide example of city state that adopted Attic Greek, in the same manner that you suggest that Macedonians did adopted it.


      Macedonia works

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      • Daskalot
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        • Sep 2008
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        #33
        Originally posted by afterhours View Post
        I'm an art history major....I love art and history!

        I especially enjoy museums!
        Nice to see that you have an "obsession" in life, could you please highlight the 5 most important dates in Greek history? I and the readers are keen to know.
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        • Daskalot
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          • Sep 2008
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          #34
          Originally posted by afterhours View Post
          Here is what the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York has to say.

          List of Rulers: The Ancient Greek World

          “An abridged list of rulers for the ancient Greek world concentrating on the Hellenistic age (323–31 B.C.), after the time of Alexander the Great. In the preceding centuries, Greek city-states were governed by a variety of entities, including kings, oligarchies, tyrants, and, as in the case of Athens, a democracy.”


          The following abridged list of rulers for the ancient Greek world is primarily for the rulers of the Hellenistic age (323–31 B.C.), after the time of Alexander the Great. In the preceding centuries, the dominant geopolitical unit was the polis or city-state. Greek city-states were governed by a variety of entities, including kings, oligarchies, tyrants, and, as in the case of Athens, a democracy.
          So you are telling us that the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York considers ancient Macedonia to be a city-state, is this correct?
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          • Daskalot
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            • Sep 2008
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            #35
            Originally posted by afterhours View Post
            How bout Macedonia? Does that work for starters?
            Could you give us a definition of what constitutes a city-state.
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            • afterhours
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              #36
              Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
              The ancients from the city-states did not call their language "Greek", they called it Ellene as you yourself state, thus the modern use of the term "Greek" does not apply retrospectively.
              That's because the term "Greek" is what the Romans referred to us as...just like the Persians referred to the Macedonians as Yunan.

              Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
              Aha, so how did the ancients from the city-states whom spoke the Attic dialect note this in their writings, because there was also a Doric dialect etc., so the two were not mixed up.

              Dialects existed then as they do now....still not following.

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              • Daskalot
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                #37
                Originally posted by afterhours View Post
                Macedonia works
                So you have only Macedonia, none else?
                How many city-states were there?
                Which dialects did they speak?
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                • afterhours
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                  So you are telling us that the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York considers ancient Macedonia to be a city-state, is this correct?

                  That's what the Metropolitan Museum in New York has to say....do you question their authority?

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                  • afterhours
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                    So you choose to stay on topic when you get cornered. Funny lad.

                    I really do think you should take the time and answer the questions posed, if you took the time to start them then you ought to answer them to.
                    Have I disappointed thus far?

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                    • Daskalot
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                      • Sep 2008
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by afterhours View Post
                      Dialects existed then as they do now....still not following.
                      We all know this, but how did the ancients know that they spoke this or that dialect, they must have been aware that their neighbors might not speak in exactly the same manner as they themselves did, thus they must have noted this somewhere.
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                      • afterhours
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                        How do you know that the Athenians were snobs? Is this noted in literature and does this automatically equate that they are the "elite"?

                        Common knowledge!

                        As a matter of fact, the Athenians (kinda like today) thought that their shit didn't stink!

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                        • Daskalot
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by afterhours View Post
                          That's what the Metropolitan Museum in New York has to say....do you question their authority?
                          I sincerely must, no sober Hellenist does consider Macedonia in ancient times to have been a city-state.
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                          • makedonin
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                            • Sep 2008
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by afterhours View Post
                            How bout Macedonia? Does that work for starters?
                            Playing the smart ass? Is that how you react when you don't have any valid option to prove your point you make?

                            Show us valid example to prove your point that Attic was used by the city states cause it was sophisticated!

                            And for starters like your self, Macedonia was Kingdom, no city state.
                            To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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                            • Daskalot
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by afterhours View Post
                              Have I disappointed thus far?
                              You are not an A+ student if we say so.....
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                              • afterhours
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                                Nice to see that you have an "obsession" in life, could you please highlight the 5 most important dates in Greek history? I and the readers are keen to know.

                                Why so curious? This is thread is dedicated to Macedonian archaeology, an archaeology that is housed in the world's finest museums....what's your ulterior motive?

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