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http://books.google.com.au/books?id=...page&q&f=false Further, specifically regarding 'note 4' and its reference to 'UPZ I7 and 8,' I found (in the link immediately below), that it seems to belong to the following person; http://books.google.com.au/books?id=...nd%208&f=false John Tzetzes,**(b. c. 1110—d. after 1180),*Byzantine didactic poet and scholar who preserved much valuable information from ancient Greek literature and scholarship, in which he was widely read. Tzetzes was for a time secretary to a provincial governor, then earned a meagre living by teaching and writing. He has been described as the perfect specimen of the Byzantine pedant. His literary and scholarly output was enormous, although it contained many inaccuracies—mostly because he was quoting from memory, lacking books, which he said his poverty forced him to do without. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...6/John-Tzetzes Tzetzes was Georgian on his mother's side. In his works, Tzetzes states that his grandmother was a relative of the Georgian Bagratid princess Maria of Alania who came to Constantinople with her and later became the second wife of the sebastos Constantine, megas droungarios and nephew of the patriarch Michael I Cerularius.[1] Tzetzes was described as vain, seems to have resented any attempt at rivalry, and violently attacked his fellow grammarians. Owing to a lack of written material, he was obliged to trust to his memory; therefore caution has to be exercised in reading his work. However, he was learned, and made a great contribution to the furtherance of the study of ancient Greek literature. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tzetzes
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![]() It’s not Gal Gadot’s ethnicity that's the problem
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And no link. The Greek throwaway lines are optimistic.
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![]() I’m giving this thread a bump as a result of the recently created thread regarding the “whitewashing” claims with respect to the casting of Israeli actress, Gal Gadot, playing the lead role of Cleopatra. I have to admit that, when Amphipolis posted the article above about this so called controversy, I merely glazed over it as I was immediately put off by the whole “Macedonian/Greek heritage” thing when it came to Cleopatra’s nationality. What else is new, I though at the time. If the Greeks get involved in this movie too, as they did with Oliver Stone’s Alexander, then the whole thing will reek with a crime, much, much, worse than the benign and, ideologically leftist crime of “whitewashing” and that is, the sinister Greek practice of “Greek-washing.”
Reading through the whole article, the central theme seems to be more of an anti-Jewish/Israeli tirade rather than the issue of “whitewashing”. Nevertheless, I want to touch on the issue of “whitewashing” first and the hypocrisy of leftists’ outrage. If I’m not mistaken, “whitewashing” is meant to call out the inappropriate casting of white actors/actresses playing the roles of historical figures which do not accurately represent the ethnic heritage of these figures. However, as can be seen from the paragraph below, historical accuracy is the last thing on a leftist’s mind. Quote:
Now for the issue of Greek-washing. The article’s emphasis on Cleopatra’s supposed Greek heritage is infuriating, to say the least. Again, if historical accuracy is anything to go by, we know from Plutarch’s writings that, although the Ptolemaic Royal Family had, over time, abandoned their native Macedonian language, and, couldn’t care less about learning the Egyptian language, this was not the case with Cleopatra. She was a gifted linguist who spoke about a dozen different languages including her native Macedonian. This is probably the single most important quote with regard to her ethnic heritage. It is quite evident from this ancient quote that, by the time of Cleopatra’s rule, most of the Ptolemies spoke Koine Greek, the language that Alexander the Great had originally instituted for administrative purposes into his Empire. The ambiguity created by the “Macedonian/Greek” description of Cleopatra’s ethnic heritage is a clear case of Greek-washing by various modern day authors, whether they do it consciously (in the case of Greeks) or naively (non-Greek authors). Plutarch’s quote below: Quote:
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![]() Laeta kalogridis was/is involved in both Alexander (2004) and Cleopatra (2022) as a writer.
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