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  • TrueMacedonian
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    • Jan 2009
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    Bishop Athnasie of Ohrid, Revolutionary Leader

    Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13670

    #2
    Interesting figure, we should delve further, you have a knack for bringing up these figures that have been buried in history, keep up the excellent work TM.
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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    • TrueMacedonian
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 3810

      #3
      Bishop Atanas or Athanasie or Athanasius, as we shall see, was not just a leader for the Macedonians but also an instigator of the Albanian tribes nearby. Here's what I mean;


      page 96


      If we take these two sources into account then we can say that Atanas or Athanasius was a Christian Revolutionary leader who's central plan was to cause widespread disruptions and uprisings in not just Macedonia but the Balkans themselves. So I agree with what Djordjevic and Galati wrote. Bishop Athanasie submitted planS for diversionary revolutionary action in the Balkans.
      Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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      • TrueMacedonian
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 3810

        #4
        Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
        Interesting figure, we should delve further, you have a knack for bringing up these figures that have been buried in history, keep up the excellent work TM.
        Thanks SoM. I hope to find more on this Revolutionary Bishop. I have a very strange feeling that somehow stories about him influenced a young Karposh that same century.
        Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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        • Soldier of Macedon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 13670

          #5
          One way or another it all connects mate, it is all Macedonian history, fragmented as it is, it is nevertheless coming together.
          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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          • indigen
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 1558

            #6
            Some decent info can be found on page 103-4 of "Macedonia - Its People and History" by Stoyan Pribichevich , 1982.

            An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


            An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


            An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


            An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


            An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


            An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


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            I have a feeling the below Usenet post is sourced from Pribichevich
            (via a Al Donski translation).

            The archbishop of Ohrid, Athanasius, in 1596 went to request assistance from
            the Italian, Spanish and Austrian rulers. In his record he states:

            " ...When we passed through Serbia, Bosnia, Dalmatia, Montenegro and lower
            Macedonia, Greece, Thrace, Bulgaria and generally everywhere where holds and
            rules the Turk in Europe, and since evaluated and saw everything, we were
            left puzzled, how (it is possible) in those kingdoms, in which the
            christians outnumber the Turks, the latter ones to hold such places
            (territories), more so when the mountains and the narrow passes, as well as
            some fortresses, are held by the christians and the subservience of these
            (christians) towards the rulers (Turks) is almost non existent.... And this
            I recommended, when from N.V. I receive 5 or 6 thousand infantry from the
            Spanish and the Italian nationalities, weapons and munition of 15,000
            people, saddles for 4000 horses, in a short time I will deliver MACEDONIA
            under his rule and administration... Some more, after this undertaking is
            achieved, the whole of Bosnia, Dalmatia, BULGARIA and GRECIA will without
            any doubt take up arms against the Turk."

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            • TrueMacedonian
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 3810

              #7
              Originally posted by indigen View Post
              Some decent info can be found on page 103-4 of "Macedonia - Its People and History" by Stoyan Pribichevich , 1982.

              An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


              An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


              An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


              An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


              An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


              An introduction to one of the significant peoples of the Balkan peninsula, this book presents the achievements and problems of the Macedonians from ancient times to the present. Most Macedonians today live in Yugoslavia, where they comprise one of the five major national groups and dominate one of the six federated Republics, but a sizable number reside in Bulgaria and Greece. The introductory chapter outlines the complex geography, ethnography, and ancient history of the Balkans. The mysterious Macedonians of the Classical Period vanished with Philip and Alexander, to be replaced in the 6th and 7th centuries AD by a Slavic people who came from the Russo-Polish-Ukranian plains in the Great Migration to the Byzantine empire. The Macedonians adopted Eastern Orthodoxy, and their language, written in Cyrillic script, became one of three principal languages of Yugoslavia. The Macedonians have preserved a rich cultural identity through thirteen centuries of political turmoil and partition. Macedonia--including the Greek and Bulgarian parts--has distinctive customs, folklore, art, and architecture.


              --------------

              I have a feeling the below Usenet post is sourced from Pribichevich
              (via a Al Donski translation).

              The archbishop of Ohrid, Athanasius, in 1596 went to request assistance from
              the Italian, Spanish and Austrian rulers. In his record he states:

              " ...When we passed through Serbia, Bosnia, Dalmatia, Montenegro and lower
              Macedonia, Greece, Thrace, Bulgaria and generally everywhere where holds and
              rules the Turk in Europe, and since evaluated and saw everything, we were
              left puzzled, how (it is possible) in those kingdoms, in which the
              christians outnumber the Turks, the latter ones to hold such places
              (territories), more so when the mountains and the narrow passes, as well as
              some fortresses, are held by the christians and the subservience of these
              (christians) towards the rulers (Turks) is almost non existent.... And this
              I recommended, when from N.V. I receive 5 or 6 thousand infantry from the
              Spanish and the Italian nationalities, weapons and munition of 15,000
              people, saddles for 4000 horses, in a short time I will deliver MACEDONIA
              under his rule and administration... Some more, after this undertaking is
              achieved, the whole of Bosnia, Dalmatia, BULGARIA and GRECIA will without
              any doubt take up arms against the Turk."
              This is excellent brat. Fala
              Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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              • TrueMacedonian
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 3810

                #8
                Here's the book by Stoyan Pribichevich (Macedonia;it's people and history) that indigen had posted clips of.


                Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                • TrueMacedonian
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3810

                  #9
                  He was a revolutionary Christian trying to free not just Macedonia but all the Balkans from the Turk. He even offered Macedonia to Spain in return for help. It just shows the desperate situation the christians must have been in under the Ottoman yoke.
                  Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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