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![]() Seriously, putting the topic aside, Eftov is one of the most annoying pricks I've ever seen. He really only likes the sound of his own voice. I don't think he's ever asked a question because he wants an answer, he asks questions purely for the sake of it. Rather than listening to the response and digging in deeper, he just keeps popping out random crap before the interviewee even has a chance to open his mouth.
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![]() The Albanians unfortunately are not below 20%. I have completed an analysis from the Macedonian state statistical publications from the following information I have realized that the percentage of the Albanians currently in Macedonia is hovering from a low of 22% to a high of 26%. This will give the Albanians a number of approximately 440-470000 citizens.
The good news however is that their numbers in the future will decrease due to emigration. Over the past 10 years A LOT of Albanians have emigrated abroad and their current TFR birth rate is at or below 2.1 in Macedonia at this time. Also in the larger Albanian dominated municipalities births are slowing down as the Albanians are becoming more industralized |
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Само меле цело време, гостите му се сведени на display only кукли пошто самио си го одговоре прашањето шо го поставе. У една емисија гостино (мислам дека беше некој Бугарски функционер) едноставно стана и си излезе на сред емисија оти не можеше да се доискаже ![]()
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![]() Лично мислам дека емисијата е одлична. Пристапот на Ефтов го сфаќам како негов стил, пристап и начин да испровоцира реакција од соговорникот. Очигледно е дека тоа му успева во повеќе наврати и се надевам ќе продолжи со тоа.
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Фактите и константациите за кои се зборуваше во дел од емисијата се изнесени од еминентниот Професор д-р Славе Ристески Експерт за Демографија, кој се занимава со оваа проблематика веќе 30 години. Како би рекле по нашки- Му нема рамен во Македонија на тема демографија! Quote:
Драган тој „некој" бугарски фукционер што Ефтов сакаше да го испровоцира е Божидар Димитров. Димитров е поранешен министер без ресор и службеник во Бугарските тајни служби, со главна задача ништење на се' што е Македонско. Автор е и на книгата "The Ten Lies of Macedonism" каде се обидува да дескредитира се' што е македонско. Како Македонец треба подобро да ги знаеш душманите на Македонија. |
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Туку веќе коа викаш гостин у емисија (без разлика кој) културно е коа му поставеш прашање да го оставеш да го одговоре у целост,нели? Васко како унапред да има спремано неколку подпрашања и свои теории и тези, и кога и да сака другио да образложе нешто он го сече у корен и сам си го одговоре прашањето. Епа која е поентата да викаш гостин ако не си спремен да го ислушаш? Најискрено Васко како новинар го имам пратено од поодамна и беше човек на место,ако не и еден од најдобрите новинари (уште коа имаше независни новинари,а не СДСовски и ДПМНЕовски потрчковци и пропагандисти како шо е случај со најголем дел самонаречени новинари сега). Ама со тек на време (дали почна да снемува теми или не знам) се повеќе почна да забегува по некакви теории на заговор и почна да праве емисии буквално за се шо му текне. Типчето може комотно да креира македонски верзии на "Зона на самракот". Тука веќе губе секаков кредибилитет кај мене. Шо викат, "само Чак Норис успеал да заврше реченица у интервју со Васко Ефтов" ![]()
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http://www.stat.gov.mk/PublikaciiPoOblasti_en.aspx Everyone in Macedonia knows that its common knowledge that Albanians have more kids on average than Macedonians do. Their total fertility rate is higer than the Macedonian one. Just looking at the published births for 2014 by ethnic affiliation of the mother Albanians made up 33.5% of births: Total Births by ethnic Affiliation of mother: Total ........................23596 Macedonians..............12099 (51.3%) Albanian....................7908 (33.5%) Turks........................1135 Roma........................1545 Vlac/Srb/Bos/Other.....909 Here are the percentage of births over the last 10 years or so. Albanian Births are at ~33% of total births. Macedonians 2004: 12.488 (53.5%) 2005: 11.923 (53%) 2006: 11.707 (51,8%) 2007: 11.807 (52%) 2008: 12.254 (53,3%) 2009: 12.490 (52,7%) 2010: 12.658 (52,1%) 2011: 11.544 (50,6%) 2012: 11.995 (50,8%) 2013: 11.550 (49,9%) 2014: 12.099 (51,2%) Albanians 2004: 7.390 (31.6%) 2005: 7.230 (32,1%) 2006: 7.396 (32,7%) 2007: 7.392 (32,5%) 2008: 7.309 (31,8%) 2009: 7.454 (31,4%) 2010: 7.888 (32,4%) 2011: 7.727 (33,9%) 2012: 8.035 (34,1%) 2013: 8.137 (35,1%) 2014: 7.908 (33,5%) Primary and Lower secondary school students 2013/14 school year Total Students of All ethnicities (Mak/Alb/Turk/Srb/Roma/etc) = 190541 Macedonian Students .................104254 54.71% Albanian Students.......................62188 32.64% Just this data alone supports that Albanians cannot be below 20% of the population but be able to produce 33.5% of the births in the country. Their Total Fertility rate would be too high and their population in the country would have to be too low. Even in Kosovo (which Albanians in Macedonia most closely represent) the TFR is just at or slightly below 2.1 which is the replacement value for population to hold steady. I feel that currently the TFR for Albanians in Macedonia is at or slightly below 2 or so very similar to Kosovo. The only reason that their population is holding steady is because Births = Deaths + Emigration keeping them at a population of around 440000 on the low end to 470000 on the high end. Now the good news is that over the last 10 years or so since 2005 there has been a HUGE emigration wave of Albanians (and unfortunately probably Macedonians) leaving the country as shown by this data of primary and secondary school students of Albanian ethnicity. If you look at 2005 up until more recently, the trend after an all time high of 79428 students their numbers have began to plummet (falling 21%) over 10 years to 62660 students. Up until 2005 for the previous 40 years the Albanian student population has only increased and never decreased (when their TFR was really high at around 4-5 TFR). The only explanation for this decrease is emigration as Albanians have more kids on average than Macedonians and technically their student population should be increasing over time rather than decreasing. Albanian Primary/Lower Secondary School students 1966 41426 1967 43735 1968 47372 1969 50347 1970 53020 1971 54801 1972 59047 1973 63170 1974 64919 1975 67817 1976 69963 1977 71521 1978 73718 1979 74402 1980 75676 1981 75371 1982 76218 1983 76340 1984 76297 1985 76533 1986 76210 1987 75221 1988 74425 1989 72651 1990 72121 1991 69950 1992 69952 1993 70320 1994 71490 1995 72142 1996 73352 1997 74122 1998 76090 1999 ? 2000 75571 2001 76087 2002 75543 2003 75015 2004 74200 2005 79428 2006 77054 2007 74103 2008 71436 2009 69034 2010 65121 2011 64213 2012 62660 Now due to emigration we see that the Albanian Student Population is falling faster than the Macedonian one. Here is a comparison of the Macedonian student population compared to the Albanian one. Macedonia is extremely lucky Albanians are big on Emigration. Had they not been in about 10 years from now it would have been game over. Macedonian primary school students 2006/2007: 122,016 = 53,4% share of the total 2007/2008: 118,507 = 53,6% 2008/2009: 115,605 = 53,7% 2009/2010: 112,293 = 53,7% 2010/2011: 109,765 = 54,3% 2011/2012: 107,564 = 54,3% 2012/2013: 105,648 = 54.35% 13.4% DECREASE in 7 years Albanian primary school students 2006/2007: 78,467 = 34,3% share of the total 2007/2008: 75,141 = 34,0% 2008/2009: 72,570 = 33,7% 2009/2010: 69,922 = 33,4% 2010/2011: 66,156 = 32,7% 2011/2012: 65,085 = 32,8% 2012/2013: 63,483 = 32,71% 19.1% DECREASE in 7 years Last edited by mklion; 11-24-2015 at 10:54 PM. |
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![]() Mk lion welcome .If that's the case that is indeed good news for Macedonia.Huge numbers of young Albanians leaving to go abroad.They have been trying to come back and to falsify the census.Albanians born abroad have tried to register in Macedonia as if born in Macedonia.Also many have made their money in o/s and have bought money with them.
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![]() Коа сме веќе кај Васко Ефтов, осамнаа фактури од неговата продукција од 3ти овој месец према МРТВ од по преку 200 000 денари за некаков проект "Крв и мед".
Баш да видеме шо проект ќе биде тоа, знаејќи го Васко сешто може да се очекува... ![]() ![]()
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