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Old 06-18-2021, 05:09 AM   #711
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But don't worry. They all know they're Macedonians. I keep hearing that old chestnut.

A pity nobody else knows they're Macedonians.
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Old 06-18-2021, 07:24 AM   #712
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The news out of Bulgaria yesterday was rather confusing. Not sure what to believe anymore -- total chaos. Zaev said there was a "breakthrough" yesterday, and Macedonian media was reporting that a possible "roadmap"/"solution" was tabled which the Bulgarians are supposed to review now. The Macedonian government this morning denied those reports, saying that only "mutual trust and dialogue" was discussed yesterday. Bulgarian outlets are reporting this morning Zaev offered to declare that the Macedonian and the Bulgarian languages are the same.

Zaev offered to declare that the Macedonian and the Bulgarian languages are the same

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Bulgarian media outlets are reporting that a possible concessions Zoran Zaev is going to make to the Bulgarian side is to declare that the Macedonian language is identical to the Bulgarian. Zaev was in Sofia yesterday, for a desperate, last minute attempt to get Bulgaria to approve the opening of EU accession talks with Macedonia at the European Council next week.

The guest offered five versions of a compromise that would be included in a political declaration. One of them was a formula for the linguistic dispute that would state that Bulgarians and Macedonians speak a same language, but that it is internationally recognized as two separate languages, “24 Chasa” reported. The paper also reports that a declaration will be made that the two nations are “brotherly”. Bulgaria insists that the Macedonian nation recently emerged from the Bulgarian, under pressure of the Yugoslav authorities, and that the Macedonian language is similarly forcefully derived from the Bulgarian.

Zaev himself opened the door to adding the Bulgarian ethnic community in Macedonia to the Constitution, which already names the Albanians, Roma, Turks, Vlachs, Serbs and Bosniaks, along with the Macedonians.

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Old 06-18-2021, 03:51 PM   #713
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Doesn't Zaev realise that he will be out of office before any EU funding ("DEBT") comes through to Macedonia if it ever gets in? He won't be around to syphon his share of money out of the yet to be hatched scams. What a disgraceful person. Why isn't every Macedonian spitting at him in public?
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Old 06-18-2021, 10:22 PM   #714
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Partial translation of the article in the link.
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Bulgarian citizens are against concessions for Macedonia, Zaev appeals for good neighborliness and believes in a solution

A huge percentage of Bulgarian citizens do not agree with Sofia making concessions in the dispute with Macedonia, according to the results of a telephone poll by the Gallup polling agency. According to Gallup, as reported by the Bulgarian media, 70% of the respondents are against Bulgaria lifting the veto on Macedonia's accession to the European Union, and almost 20% have the opposite opinion. The others are still hesitant. The poll was conducted on a sample of 890 adult Bulgarian citizens between June 14th and 16th, just days before the Macedonian government delegation visited Sofia.
On the one hand, Bulgar politicians complain about the negative sentiment in Macedonia towards Bulgar propaganda, on the other, they foster hatred in their own country against Macedonia. Tell us more about good neighbourly relations you steppe-nostalgic charlatans.
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Old 06-20-2021, 12:05 PM   #715
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While Zaev went to Sofia to (literally) beg, the response in Bulgaria has been intensified nationalist rhetoric.

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Засилена националистичката реторика во Бугарија

Дејствија против добрососедството и пријателството. Вака владата ги оцени провокативните пораки и националистичката реторика на бугарскиот европратеник Ангел Џамбаски, како и во официјалниот спот на партијата ВМРО БНД, кој е дел од кампањата за претстојните парламентарни избори во Бугарија. Велат дека, владите на двете земји со последната посета на премиерот Заев во Софија упатиле јасни пораки дека се посветени да градат позитивни односи и доверба, со цел надминување на разликите.

ГИ ОХРАБРУВАМЕ СИТЕ ФАКТОРИ ДА СЕ ДВИЖАТ ПО ПАТОТ НА ДИЈАЛОГОТ И ДОВЕРБАТА И ДА ПОМОГНАТ НА ДВАТА НАРОДИ И ДВЕТЕ ДРЖАВИ ПОБРЗО ДА СЕ ДОЈДЕ ДО ПОСАКУВАНОТО РЕШЕНИЕ. СИТЕ ДЕЈСТВИЈА НА КОЈ БИЛО ФАКТОР, КОИ ОДАТ СПРОТИВНО ОД ДИЈАЛОГОТ, ОД ГРИЖАТА ЗА ДРУГИОТ И ОД ГРАДЕЊЕТО НА ДОВЕРБА, СЕ ДЕЈСТВИЈА ПРОТИВ ДОБРОСОСЕДСТВОТО И ПРОТИВ ПРИЈАТЕЛСТВОТО.

Спотот, кој Џамбаски го промовираше на фејсбук, изобилува со скандалозни пораки и снимки од Скопје и од Охрид.

МАКЕДОНИЈА Е БУГАРСКА. ФАКТ НА КОЈ НЕ МУ ТРЕБА ДОКАЗ. ФАКТ ШТО ЗОРАН ЗАЕВ ГО ЗАБОРАВА КОГА Е ВО СКОПЈЕ. И ТОЈ СЕ СЕЌАВА САМО КОГА ЌЕ ПОБАРА НЕШТО. БУГАРИЈА ОТСЕКОГАШ ЈА САКАЛА МАКЕДОНИЈА. НО, БУГАРИЈА НЕ ТРЕБА ДА БИДЕ УЦЕНУВАНА!

Речиси секоја објава на на фејсбук на европратеникот Џамбаски изобилува со навредливи и националистички пораки за Македонија. Тој е познат и по говорот на омраза кон Ромите во Бугарија.

Не заостанува многу зад него ниту претседателот на партијата, Каракачанов, кој пак, му префрли на Борисов затоа што зборувал за два народа и две нации, иако самиот Заев зборувал за еден народ. Тој го нарече и македонскиот национален тим репрезентација на другата бугарска држава.

Оваа реторика, што предизборно се очекува и да се засилува, влијае и на јавното мислење. Според неодамнешното истражување на Галуп во Бугарија, 70 отсто од испитаниците се против тоа, да се укине ветото за пристапување на Македонија во Европската унија.

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It's official, Bulgaria and EU have vetoed Macedonia for the second time.

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It's official, Bulgaria and EU have vetoed Macedonia for the second time.

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Second veto from Bulgaria, Macedonia will wait for a new chance during the Slovenian presidency. Increased diplomatic pressure on Sofia did not work, Bulgaria confirmed the veto, Macedonia will probably wait for a new chance during the Slovenian presidency after July 1. The unfavorable news, which should be made official by the Portuguese presidency at a press conference, was announced by the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry late this afternoon. Quoting Deputy Foreign Minister Rumen Alexandrov in Luxembourg, Sofia said she did not deviate from the Bulgarian parliament's declaration and remained open to dialogue with the upcoming Slovenian presidency. This includes Macedonia explicitly giving up territorial, minority and historical claims to Bulgaria, changing the inscriptions / monuments that instill hatred towards Bulgaria in Macedonia, activating a process of rehabilitation of the victims of Yugoslav communism. Bulgaria insists that the implementation of the Good Neighbor Agreement should be included among the conditions in the future Skopje negotiating framework, the statement said. In a statement to Bulgaria's BTV, Alexandrov said member states understood Sofia's demands. An understanding was shown towards the sensitivity of the Bulgarian side, towards the arguments we expressed and the concern we have. In that sense, the need for Macedonia to make efforts to reach a mutually acceptable solution was shared, said Rumen Alexandrov, Deputy Foreign Minister of Bulgaria. Today's General Affairs Council, according to media reports, was a warning to most ministers that the Bulgarian veto undermined the Union's credibility, with German Foreign Minister Roth reiterating that bilateral issues should not hamper the enlargement process. "The Federal Government Committee believes that Albania and Macedonia have met the conditions and can finally start negotiations and it must be clear that the EU as a whole, supported by 27 member states, is now sending a signal for the implementation of the promises made by the countries," said Michael Roth, German Secretary of State for Europe. Unofficially, the option of separating Macedonia and Albania from the negotiating package and Tirana getting the green light was put on the table, but such a scenario was far from a consensus.
First they were pressuring Macedonia to accept the foreign "roots" of its people and language, now the Bulgars have gone for the Greek formula by referring to (imaginary) territorial claims, and changing inscriptions and monuments. It also looks like the persistence of the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria is hitting a nerve. On the one hand, Bulgaria is being pressured to allow their citizens of Macedonian origin to form their own organisations, on the other, it is racing to eliminate that possibility by securing agreement from the treacherous northadonian leadership in Macedonia that no such minority exists in Bulgaria. The "rehabilitation of the victims of Yugoslav communism" will also be a fiasco. It is well known that many Macedonian activists who were against the regime during that period were labelled "bugarashi" as an insult by the Yugoslav authorities, even though such victims identified themselves as Macedonians, not Bulgars. There already exist several examples where former prisoners from that era have provided testimony to that effect. Meanwhile, no mention of the persecution of Macedonians in Communist Bulgaria. Macedonia is literally under a political and cultural siege on multiple fronts. Wake up Macedonians. Stop the pursuit of slavery. Reverse the cultural suicide.
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Old 06-22-2021, 08:32 PM   #718
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Surely it is time to tell the EU the game is up.
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24 June 2021

Radev: We cannot say "yes" until Skopje stops stealing Bulgarian history

(Translation) Bulgarian President Rumen Radev, before the start of the European Council, boasted to reporters that at the last moment they managed to remove the item for Macedonia from the agenda and said that in the last month and a half Bulgaria was under enormous pressure from European partners at today's Council to allow the start of negotiations with Macedonia. According to Radev, Bulgaria was isolated at the previous Council in May, pointed the finger at it and accused of blocking talks with Macedonia and Albania. He also said that he had many personal meetings and talks with the leaders of the European institutions, with the European Commissioners, as well as with the US Secretary of State. "I believe they realized that the criticism of Bulgaria was unfounded. That we have a clear position to find a solution to this problem and that guarantees and sustainable results are needed in bilateral relations. "It is time to get out of family diplomacy in front of the cameras and focus on pragmatic solutions," Radev said. He added that in the last month and a half, Bulgaria has proved, despite pressure, that it is a responsible member of the EU and will not allow new problems to enter the Union.

"Let us not be naive. We managed not only to remove this item from the agenda but also to reject the pressure to commit to start negotiations with the Republic of Northern Macedonia with deadlines. But for now. "The pressure will continue," Radev said. He reiterates that Sofia adheres to the Copenhagen criteria for membership and can not "pass" the discrimination of citizens in Northern Macedonia just because of their determination as Bulgarians, which is contrary to European values ​​and principles. "We will not say 'yes' until we see eradication mechanisms to eradicate the distorted narrative and attitude towards Bulgaria in textbooks, museums, monuments, to the media and state policy. "We can not say 'yes' until we are convinced that our neighbor will not build his identity on the theft of Bulgarian history," Radev said. He said that Bulgaria remains open for quick and fruitful bilateral talks in the interest of the citizens of both countries, adding that "the people of Northern Macedonia are our brothers and we are obliged to help them, as we have always done."
Every time Zaev visits his "brothers", his weakness (or opportunism) only emboldens those maggots even further. Keep up the veto. Leave Macedonia be.
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