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Old 03-22-2021, 09:54 PM   #241
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... Vlachs were basicaly NOWHERE in Peloponnese, either prior or after 1865 ...
https://www.gtp.gr/LocInfo.asp?Inclu...cId=8952&lng=1
https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A4...B4%CE%B1%CF%82

Tracheia is a village in the prefecture of Argolida, in the municipality of Epidaurus.

One of the oldest -if not the oldest- village of the municipality. In the distant past, Tracheia was an old Turkish mahala, which after the liberation (1821), was inhabited mainly by Epirote Vlachs (Βλάχους Ηπειρώτες). Its new inhabitants successfully developed the art of cheese-making and soon expanded throughout the Prefecture of Argolida, leading the way in milk collection. Over the years, they have created a tradition in the manufacture of cheese products with unparalleled quality and taste, which has as a result that at the moment it is in the first places nationwide.


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"In the Peloponnese and even in Argolida, apart from the Illyrian place names, there are many Latinate or Vlach toponyms..." --- Page 42, Mesaiōnikes selides tēs Argolidos, Arkadias, Korinthias, Attikēs, By Iōannēs Euag Peppas 1990

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Old 03-23-2021, 08:03 AM   #242
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This doesn't change much what I said, that there were NO Vlach villages in Peloponnese, by the 18th or 19th century, i.e. periods for which we have plenty of information.

I don't know much about Vlachs, e.g. how quickly they establish settlements or how quickly they vanish, but here's a funny video from Argolis. This is a different village called Limnes (i.e. Lakes) and is unrelated to Tracheia. Both villages are suspiciously at the top of mountains.

In the video which is from the 1990s, old women sing old Greek and Arvanite songs, which suggest they are Arvanites. The surname of all these people is Vlachos. Some have the alternate surname Burtzos which is now considered a derogatory word (burtzovlachos means the lowest type of peasant).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_qlt6QD3q0
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Amphipolis, you are ignoring Cousinery's testimony and The London Quarterly Review reports (..at the minimum).
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