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Old 04-17-2016, 09:02 AM   #1
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Question How did Golo Brdo & Mala Prespa come under Albanian cotrol?

A United Macedonia includes the Macedonian inhabited area of Golo Brdo and Mala Prespa, currently occupied by Albania. The Treaty of Bucharest divided Macedonia into 3 parts: Vardar for Serbia, Pirin for Bulgaria and Aegean for Greece. So then how did Albania come to occupy a small part of Vardar? My research for this has yielded nothing but have heard it may be connected to a post-WW1 treaty/agreement in 1920.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:04 PM   #2
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According to Andrew Rossos, "the peace conferences upheld the decision of the London Conference of Ambassadors, in December 1912, to give the new state of Albania small parts of Macedonia."


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According to Andrew Rossos, "the peace conferences upheld the decision of the London Conference of Ambassadors, in December 1912, to give the new state of Albania small parts of Macedonia."



I just recently read that Golo Brdo was divided between Albania and Yugoslavia in 1925. So was Mala Prespa and Golo Brdo divided at seperate times through out the 1920's in accorance to agreements made in 1912?
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I just recently read that Golo Brdo was divided between Albania and Yugoslavia in 1925. So was Mala Prespa and Golo Brdo divided at seperate times through out the 1920's in accorance to agreements made in 1912?
LoM - Where did you read it? Which book/source? Thanks.
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LoM - Where did you read it? Which book/source? Thanks.

Sorry Carlin, I can't recall where I saw this. It was on the internet though
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Old 04-23-2016, 10:32 PM   #6
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How did the area of Trgovishte (including St. Prohor) become occupied by Serbia??? Why wasn't in included in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia under Yugoslavia? Seems like today Macedonians have completely forgot about this part, so I wouldn't be surprised if people here are hearing it for the first time.

https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%BF%D1%88%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A2% D1%80%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%88%D1%82%D0%B5"]See article here

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Macedonian Wikipedia provides some very brief information regarding territorial losses from the Republic of Macedonia to neighbouring Serbia during the course of its existence under the framework of Yugoslavia.

https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1...B8%D1%98%D0%B0

Since its inception on 2nd August 1944, the Peopleís Republic of Macedonia and, subsequently, the Socialist Republic of Macedonia gradually lost bits and pieces of her territory which became part of Serbian administrative control.

Territories ceded to Serbia during the early years of the Republicís existence include the monastery of Saint Prohor Pchinski, where the first plenary session of ASNOM was held, as well as the municipal areas of Preshevo, Bujanovac, Kachanik and Vitina as well as some other cadastral areas that originally fell under Kumanovo municipal administration. From 1944 to 1947 these areas were under Macedonian administrative control. It should be stressed at this point that these areas were not included in Macedonia by accident in 1944. These areas sent their own representatives to the ASNOM assembly in 1944 which means they must have had a some sense of Macedonian national identity. Not sure how the inhabitants of these areas identify today, 70 years later.

Although not mentioned in Macedonian Wikipedia, I have read somewhere (sorry canít provide exact sources) that the only person that stood up to the Serbs and vehemently opposed this eroding of Macedonian territory was Metodija Andonov-Chento, who created a lot of enemies for himself for his trouble. It seems to me that the Macedonian communists of the time were very short-sighted in their outlook and were happy to embrace a Macedonia under a Yugoslav homeland in union with other Balkan peoples. This was not the goal of Chento and others, who espoused greater freedom for Macedonia and a much looser Yugoslav federation. As a result, he was branded an enemy of the state and his troubles had only just begun for his pro-Macedonian stance.

Also not mentioned in Macedonian Wikipedia is the administrative status of the Gora region in Kosovo during those early years after WWII. If Iím not mistaken, this area was meant to be included, or was in fact included, in the administrative boundaries of the original Peopleís Republic of Macedonia. Under Serb pressure, the Macedonian communists also ceded this territory to Serbia. Many, if not most, of the Gorani people today have a Macedonian national consciousness.
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Thank you Karposh.

Here's a map of Gora (in Kosovo wedged in between Albania and Macedonia)

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How did the area of Trgovishte (including St. Prohor) become occupied by Serbia??? Why wasn't in included in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia under Yugoslavia? Seems like today Macedonians have completely forgot about this part, so I wouldn't be surprised if people here are hearing it for the first time.

https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%BF%D1%88%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A2% D1%80%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%88%D1%82%D0%B5"]See article here



Niko, I have not forgotten that part either. That was the next topic I was going to bring up!
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