Kalash / Hunza tribes & the Burushaski Language

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  • TheNikoWhiteIch
    Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 111

    Philosopher, yes I do mean linguistically.

    Also, I found another word that they have that's similar to one of ours. According to a lexicon on their language, they use the word "Ја (Ya)," when referring to oneself. This is nearly like our "Јас (Yas) "

    On the other hand, according to the same lexicon, their language has many cognates with the Basque language (thought to be another isolated language). I'll post the full lexicon later on.

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    • TheNikoWhiteIch
      Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 111

      Ok, I found a fairly complete on-line glossary of the Burushaski language. I'll post more and more later on, but for now I'll post the body parts.

      Bácin: animal's hind leg above the hock.

      Bumbálten: ankle

      Bur: single strand of hair

      Galgí: fin or wing

      Gáan: Heel

      Hútes/Utis: Foot

      Jaláalimin: long hair

      Kin/Ken: finger

      Kúur: finger joint or toe joint

      Melc: Jaw or Jawbone

      Mis/Mes: finger or toe

      Moqis: cheek or face

      Multur: nostril

      Mus: nose, snout

      Pat/Phat: side

      Pholgo/Phulguuy: Feather

      Qet: Armpit

      Qhasin: hind end, arse

      Xhat/Qhat: Mouth

      San: spleen

      Su(i): navel/umbilical cord

      Susun/Sesen: elbow

      Tal: stomach or belly

      Tano: colon or rectum

      Tar(i): Skin or hide

      Ten (Ltin): bone

      Tur (Ltur): Horn

      Ul: belly/bowels

      Yaldir: ribs


      ---The only word similar to a Macedonian word that I know of is "mus" meaning nose being similar to "nos." Likely just a similarity due to both being I.E. languages.---

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      • George S.
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 10116

        Pakistan's Hunza: We are proud to be Macedonians and we are not Greek

        Pakistan's Hunza: We are proud to be Macedonians and we are not Greek

        11 January, 19:09





        Interview by Zoran Coseski with Mr- Safder Karim a Hunza student at the Sydney University

        Mr- Safder Karim, where are the Hunza and Kalash people from and where do they live?

        The people of Hunza and Kalash are the ancestors of Alexander the Great . The great Alexander was the king of Macedonia. So logically we migrated from Macedonia to Hunza and we are the generation of Alexander's army who never returned to Macedonia.

        What is your view about the Greek cultural centres being opened in the Hunza and Kalash regions?

        There are no Greek cultural centers opened in Hunza Amit in Kalash and we won't let anyone to open any centres of their culture if they are not Macedonian . We are proud to be Macedonian and we are not Greek.

        Is your heritage Greek or Macedonian?

        I m totally confused why Greeks think that we are Greeks. Alexander was Macedonian so to clarify everything, our ancestors were Macedonians not Greeks. The Greeks have tried very hard to make us Greek but they won't get us to become Greek. We belong to the Macedonian culture and to Macedonia. We never mix with any other culture. In the ancient world there was no country called Greece, there was a Macedonian kingdom with a king and a city states around Athens.

        Tell us about your Language?

        Our language is very similar many words are similar. We speak the Burushaki language. This language is only spoken by the people of Alexander’s descendants in today's Pakistan .

        What message do you have for the Macedonian people around the world?


        There are many things I would love to tell the Macedonian community firstly we are Brothers and the children of one father, our culture is the same our language is the same our music is also the same. We can't change our Macedonian identity, no one can change their identity. I would say that there must be opportunities for the people of Hunza and the people of Macedonia to take steps to build relationships between Hunza and Macedonia because there are many other cultures like the Greeks who trying to show that we are Greeks . There should be a proper set up for the students of Hunza to go to Macedonia and get an education and also learn the Macedonian language. When they get back to Hunza they can teach the Macedonian language .There are many things to build relationship between Hunza and Macedonia and we must take step now. We love our brothers and we are proud to be descendents of the great KING ALEXANDER of Makedon . So time to show unity time to be one its time to find opportunities to make the boundaries closer to each other.


        At the end I would Say long live Hunza long live Macedonia and long live our brotherhood
        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
        GOTSE DELCEV

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        • Liberator of Makedonija
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 1595

          New short video on the Kalash:

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          I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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          • vicsinad
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 2337

            Thanks for the video. The part of about Kalash youth voluntarily converting to Islam is a good case example of the indirect pressure felt by minority cultures / peoples to assimilate when they are not afforded the same protections of law, rights and opportunities.

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            • Liberator of Makedonija
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 1595

              Originally posted by vicsinad View Post
              Thanks for the video. The part of about Kalash youth voluntarily converting to Islam is a good case example of the indirect pressure felt by minority cultures / peoples to assimilate when they are not afforded the same protections of law, rights and opportunities.
              Pakistan is an Islamic country, the purpose of its creation in 1947 was a country strictly for the Muslims of the Indian subcontinent. Of course the British partioned India horribly and the border did not as still don't reflect the religious demographics of the region. This is why the government seeks to assimilate all non-muslim groups and also to quash nationalism among Muslim-majority people such as the Balochs.
              I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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              • Momce Makedonce
                Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 562

                Who Are Pakistan's Descendants Of Alexander The Great?
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                "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task." Goce Delcev

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                • Carlin
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 3332

                  It is likely that the Kalash are an ancient tribe of northern Eurasia.

                  A 2015 study suggested that the Kalash have genetic linkages to Paleolithic Siberian hunter-gatherers “and might represent an extremely drifted ancient northern Eurasian population that also contributed to European and Near Eastern ancestry.” This research did not support the idea that the Kalash people have any link to Alexander’s soldiers.

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