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Old 11-20-2018, 09:40 AM   #1
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Felt like this group deserved their own thread on this forum. For those that don't know, the Gemidžii were the anarchist group that committed the Solun Bombings of 1903. They are therefore also known as the 'Salonican Assassins' or the 'Boatmen of Salonica'.
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Felt like this group deserved their own thread on this forum. For those that don't know, the Gemidžii were the anarchist group that committed the Solun Bombings of 1903. They are therefore also known as the 'Salonican Assassins' or the 'Boatmen of Salonica'.
Interesting bunch of lads, I think most of them were from Veles. Excuse my language, but thats what you would call Macedonian hard cunts.

Very brave and very patriotic. They could have chosen to behave like the modern Severni and chose to eat Ottoman scraps. But no, imagine they were around today.
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Interesting bunch of lads, I think most of them were from Veles. Excuse my language, but thats what you would call Macedonian hard cunts.

Very brave and very patriotic. They could have chosen to behave like the modern Severni and chose to eat Ottoman scraps. But no, imagine they were around today.
Interesting fact, a portion of the money from the Miss Stone affair was used to purchase the dynamite.
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Interesting bunch of lads, I think most of them were from Veles. Excuse my language, but thats what you would call Macedonian hard cunts.

Very brave and very patriotic. They could have chosen to behave like the modern Severni and chose to eat Ottoman scraps. But no, imagine they were around today.
Yes most of them are, believe there is a statue there in their honor.

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Interesting fact, a portion of the money from the Miss Stone affair was used to purchase the dynamite.
I read they had meetings with Delčev who supported their aims.
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There's also a 1961 movie, Солунските Атентатори, definitely worth watching.
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I read they had meetings with Delčev who supported their aims.
Sarafov provided them with the funds.
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Sarafov provided them with the funds.
They must have bridged the gap to receive support from both the VMRO and SMC.
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They must have bridged the gap to receive support from both the VMRO and SMC.
Sarafov was in VMRO at that time so no help from SMC.
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Anyone know anything of this 'Macedonian Revolutionary Socialist Group'? They called out the neighbouring states, in particular Bulgaria, hard:

https://www.marxists.org/makedonski/...oten-narod.htm
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Been interested in the Gemidzii, The Boatmen of Salonica after watching this clip.

The clip is from the banned TV Series ‘Macedonia’, with the song ‘Nalej nalej”. This series was banned in 2017 under the Zaev government but this clip made rounds on social media and Youtube.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQxFRZ65034

News article and some historical background
"SONG FROM A BANNED TV SERIES FLOODS SOCIAL MEDIA
A message of defiance was shared throughout Monday as numerous commentators on the social media posted a recent version of “Nalej, Nalej” song, the haunting ballad about the Macedonian revolutionary movement.

The most recent version comes from the currently censored “Macedonia” series, which is meant to depict the tumultuous national liberation struggle of the Macedonians. Croatian Jadran Film was hired to produce the series, with popular writer Aleksandar Rusjakov preparing the script, but it was cancelled in 2017, when it was seen as politically inconvenient.

The song and its video, adapted from the still unfinished series, depicts the scene when the Gemidzii/Boatmen of Veles, a group of young revolutionaries, prepare to attack symbolic targets in Solun (Thessaloniki) in 1903, in the run-up to the VMRO led Ilinden Uprising. In the song, the Boatmen ask the lady at the inn they are gathered in to pour them another round of wine, while lamenting their soon-to-be trials and deportations through the dungeons of the Ottoman Empire.

The video also portrays one of the boatmen, Pavel Shatev, who took part in the bombing of the French ship Guadalquivir in the Solun harbor, and was imprisoned in Libya before returning to the Balkans after the Young Turk revolution. Shatev was a leading socialist organizer during World War Two and was elected the first Justice Minister of the newly formed Macedonian state in 1944, but because of his Macedonian patriotic positions he was accused of working with the Soviet Union against Yugoslavia and was imprisoned again in 1949, and was denied medical treatment until he died in 1951.

The song was also frequently performed in honor of another Macedonian dissident from Yugoslav times – actor Risto Siskov, who was who was tried in 1980 for speaking out against the Tito regime and died similarly after being denied treatment while in prison."

https://english.republika.mk/.../song-from-a-banned.../...



Not sure if it is true that Šatev wrote a complaint to the Bulgarian embassy in Belgrade in 1946, arguing that the new Macedonian language is Serbianised and the use of native Bulgarian language is prohibited in Macedonia? Apparently also participated on the side of the Bulgarian army in WW1.

Not sure if there is any truth to these allegations or just typical Bulgarian spin, been searching around. Not sure if anybody else has any sources or opinions?
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