The Real Ethnic Composition of Modern Greece

[Philosopher]

Originally Posted by Karposh

SoM, I just noticed you pulled the pin on Amphipolis. Just out of curiosity, what was it in the end that finally made you lose your patience with her? I kind of got used to having her around. I think I'm even gonna miss her.

Actually, she is a he. Amphipolis has been on this forum under various [now banned] usernames, so I won't be surprised he pops up again under a new username sometime soon.

He is a he; his avatar picture was misleading.

[Risto the Great]

I was actually attracted to her. Like a moth to a lame.

[tchaiku]

How much is the proportion of modern Greek population of Wallachian origin?

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Karposh

SoM, I just noticed you pulled the pin on Amphipolis. Just out of curiosity, what was it in the end that finally made you lose your patience with her? I kind of got used to having her around. I think I'm even gonna miss her.

Karposh, as Philosopher pointed out, he has been here many times under different usernames. I have only banned him for a period of time so he will be back soon. He is capable of engaging in normal and interesting discussions but he has a habit of reverting to a slithering idiot from time to time whereby he tries to subliminally insult our identity. He needs to stop doing that before my patience finally runs out.

[Carlin]

Quote from Laonikos Chalkokondyles. BOOK 6, Page 65:

"The territory that extends down to Achaia is inhabited by Arabaioi, who are Albanian men..."

[Carlin]

Ios (Greek: Ίος, locally Νιός Nios) is a Greek island in the Cyclades group in the Aegean Sea.

What is the ethnic makeup and origin of the modern residents of Ios?

17th century EXPLICIT historical testimonies by two French travellers.

Greek:
1) «Σε ολόκληρο το νησί υπάρχει μονάχα μιά πολίχνη στην πλαγιά ενός λόφου. Οι κάτοικοι είναι αλβανικής καταγωγής και γενναίοι. Αντιμετωπίζουν με τόλμη τους κουρσάρους». (Francois Richard, 1650).
2) «Στη Νιό ζουν Αλβανοί, λαός βάρβαρος και πολεμοχαρής». Από το ημερολόγιο τού Γάλλου περιηγητή Τhevenot (1655).

English translation:
1) "Throughout the island there is only a small town on a hillside. The inhabitants are ethnic Albanians......" (Francois Richard, 1650).
2) "In Nios live Albanians, a people barbarian and warlike." From the French traveller Thevenot (1655)

(Mardaites, or Albanians? Or Mardaites=Albanians?)

[Carlin]

1) Pouqueville says that Athamania occupied the localities now known as Djoumerca and Radovitch. It properly belonged to Epirus, and Pliny makes a mistake in considering it as a part of Ætolia.

Dolopia = Upper Vlachia
2) Dolopia, now called Anovlachia, was properly reckoned part of Epirus.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/...%3Achapter%3D3

[Amphipolis]

Ethnic map of Vlachs (and their various groups) at 1769.

http://www.vlachs.gr/b1.htm

The same map with English legend (and gray scale)

[tchaiku]

Originally Posted by Amphipolis

Ethnic map of Vlachs (and their various groups) at 1769.

http://www.vlachs.gr/b1.htm

The same map with English legend (and gray scale)

This ignores the 200,000 Vlachs-Greeks in Albania.

[Carlin]

Originally Posted by tchaiku

This ignores the 200,000 Vlachs-Greeks in Albania.

The map ignores many things, not just the Vlach-Greeks in Albania. Many settlements/areas and villages seem to have been omitted. Some towns or cities which had a significant Vlach-speaking presence even before 1769 are excluded. The 'dots'/'shaded areas' on the map seem somewhat comical and the author asks us to believe and accept this was the state of Vlach ancestral group in specifically 1769.