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Old 09-23-2011, 11:23 AM   #11
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And thanks RTG and SoM. I am very curious to see what everyone can bring to this topic.

I guess we can say that 1993 was the start of these violations.
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Old 09-24-2011, 12:43 AM   #12
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Its a good point.

By what authority has Gruevski decided he can and will negotiate our historical and political identity?
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:16 AM   #13
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I would replace the term 'social genocide' with the word ethnocide. You make a good point makedonche.
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Fair point! - possibly "identicide" - if there is such a term!
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:28 AM   #14
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changed the flag without consulting the people.changed the name to rom skopje & still negotiating.Adopted the interim name of fyrom & not dropping it despite the countriy's constitutional name is macedonia.Signed the interim accord in 1995,
signed the ohrid agreement in 2001.THere are a lot of things to do with the sovereignity of the nation that are simply handed to the albanians.Macedonia not orking within the framework of the un to get recognition.We have the best recognition worldwide but at the worst possible scenarios of dealing with our neighbours greece.
A lot of human rights are broken by the eu & greece what does macedonia do nothing but compromise & capitulate just so that they can get into nato or eu.
Because of a catch 22 macedonia's stance of a ready & willing negotiator/participant macedonia is told by the us/eu/nato it has to change it's name.THe rom govt must accept full blame for this.Also the govt does not have a declaration for a mandate eg for human rights or anything.It got in with the albanian vote it's really letting the macedonian side down.The macedonian & albanian sides doing special deals underming our sovereignity.
Also a very big negative for the macedonian govt is it still doesn't care about the macedonian minority in all parts of macedonia like it should.A big let down the people are abused & pushed into oblivion & macedonian govt does nothink not even a whimper.
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:31 AM   #15
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the macedonian govt is destroying our name by implying that we are not entitled to our name henceforth greece will get a monopoly on the name.It's the same as the flag issue.
Sporting teams are not allowed to wrap themselves in 16 ray sun.They prefer the ventilator.Also fyrom is used when it could be dropped as a reference it's just a referemce & not a name of a country.
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:38 AM   #16
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THe scenaro of 2001 injustices committed by albanian terrorists on civilians Or war crimes committed by albanians who are deemed war criminals.These people are even getting pensions/serving in parliament as ministers/defence force etc the govt does deals with them & does nothing about it.
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:40 AM   #17
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the macedonian govt is not real or serious about governing for the macedonian citizenry.It's all just to stay in power from one term to the next.It doesn't seem to tackle issues head on.
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:42 AM   #18
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TM what do you call a person or country who is it's own worst enemy.THe worst is the political side does not care for macedonia or it's citizens.How do we explain this stance where the govt simply signs all rights away??
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:45 AM   #19
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Comment on the way we are being sold out by organizations that are mean't to be representing us eg umd.There is a saying silence is golden but not with macedonia.Macedonia seems to be destined to be destroyed or split up there seems to be no unity as unity is strength.

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Old 09-24-2011, 02:48 AM   #20
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the macedonian constitution is really anti macedonian.The govt is so antimacedonian doing everything to harm it's citizens & to disadvantage them.Fair days work does not guarrantee a fair day's pay.There are a lot of other inequalities.

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