Albanianization in Macedonia

[Prolet]

Boge, Im not sure where all these Kleveti towards Rogi are coming from, i dont know if its some kind of a wind up but theres no need for any of it.

To me there are two ways to stop the spreading of Albanization in Macedonia, they come without the use of force too.

[Risto the Great]

Prolet, type in the strategies at www.secretmacedoniantruth.org

[Bratot]

I don't think it's a crusade against the 'heretics'. I am sure you can agree that Macedonians are tired of the lack of transparency from all elements claiming to work on their behalf, that is why this 'secret' plan of yours isn't being received well. Unfortunately, such an ambiguous approach also resembles that of vassal groups such as the UMD. In my opinion, Macedonians need to know what initiatives are being prepared if their support is to be counted on.

As for the degradations of Macedonians living in RoM, can you refer me to the statement you objected to?

You are probably right that putting something which is not available to wider insight isn't the best thing to do.

However, I remain on the position from before. There is no condition for mass awarness of some plan or actions, there will be always groups or individuals to disagree with everything and I'm not aiming to satisfy everyone.

I have had also a bitter experience making initiatives online, in younger years, so I don't want to repeat the same mistake.

As what concerns for the statement I objected to it's not an isolated case nor recent, it has been subject of disagreement for some longer time already between more members and I'm convinced you are aware of it.
But having said that I do notice that you avoid adressing equally to both sides of the argument and this became a practice somehow.

[indigen]

Boge, Im not sure where all these Kleveti towards Rogi are coming from, i dont know if its some kind of a wind up but there's no need for any of it.

Rogi is a fine young Macedonian patriot and that is what the Macedonian national movement needs more of in order to continue and develop the struggle into the future. As for the Boogie man from Port Kembla, I think it is the booze talking and don't pay any attention to him.

To me there are two ways to stop the spreading of Albanization in Macedonia, they come without the use of force too.

We all eyes and ears to hear about your solution to the Ghegisation problem in Macedonia. What is your (the) master plan, Mr P.?

[Bill77]

To me there are two ways to stop the spreading of Albanization in Macedonia, they come without the use of force too.

Please don't tell us one of the two ways is diplomacy.
We know that one side sucks at it, and the other don't want a bar of it.

But i am also all ears Prolet.

[Prolet]

Its no secret at all i've stated it before in my previous posts.

Bill, Its no diplomacy at all its more like the use of force if the laws are broken just like any other normal democratic country.

[indigen]

Its no secret at all i've stated it before in my previous posts.

Bill, Its no diplomacy at all its more like the use of force if the laws are broken just like any other normal democratic country.

Prolet: To me there are two ways to stop the spreading of Albanization in Macedonia, they come without the use of force too.

Prolet, you just contradicted yourself, yet again!

[Prolet]

Well Indigen, When laws are broken force is used but police cant go in and use force without a reason. We do need a leg to stand on dont we? One things for sure and i think we should all know this, everything the Albanians do inside of Macedonia and even in Kosovo is being monitored by UBK and DBK, those banditi that are walking around armed in Tanushevci are being watched every second.

[Niko777]

MACEDONIAN Postal Stamps commemorating national holidays and culture of Albania:

100th anniversary of the first Albanian school of higher education in Elbasan, Albania



100 years from the birth of Filip Shiroka - Famous Albanian poet



Rememberance of Eqrem Çabej, national linguist and scholar of Albania:



100 years anniversary of the creation of the Albanian Alphabet:



Albania's national hero Skenderbeg:



Folk Costumes of Albanians:

[Soldier of Macedon]

As what concerns for the statement I objected to it's not an isolated case nor recent, it has been subject of disagreement for some longer time already between more members and I'm convinced you are aware of it.

Bratot, refer to me to a specific quote you object to, and explain your objection.

But having said that I do notice that you avoid adressing equally to both sides of the argument and this became a practice somehow.

Are you accusing me of bias? Are you pretending to not remember examples where I have had words with Indigen, Vangelovski and co., in cases where where I don't agree with them? Or are you becoming a little paranoid because not everybody has agreed with your approach?

[Vangelovski]

Niko777,

Please keep these coming. I'm currently undertaking some research and your contributions have proved VERY valuable.

Thanks!

[Vangelovski]

SoM,

Bratot objects to terminology such as "slave mentality" because it is "bad manners" and unhelpful to the cause - which one I'm not sure.

Interesting to note that Goce Delcev was also an "unhelpful name-caller" because he often referred to Macedonians as SHEEP, DELUDED COWARDS, WEAK, THICK and so on.

[Bratot]

SoM,

Bratot objects to terminology such as "slave mentality" because it is "bad manners" and unhelpful to the cause - which one I'm not sure.

Wrong.

I objected the abusive terminology such as calling them Slavs, Vassals, Yugos, Serbomans, servants etc. etc.

Interesting to note that Goce Delcev was also an "unhelpful name-caller" because he often referred to Macedonians as SHEEP, DELUDED COWARDS, WEAK, THICK and so on.

This is not only shallow but shameless effort to justify your name calling.

Delchev adressed these derogative names in his PRIVATE LETTERS, not in PUBLIC speeches or proclamations.

[Bratot]

Bratot, refer to me to a specific quote you object to, and explain your objection.

Are you accusing me of bias? Are you pretending to not remember examples where I have had words with Indigen, Vangelovski and co., in cases where where I don't agree with them?

Refer to me to a specific example where you don't agree with them.

Or are you becoming a little paranoid because not everybody has agreed with your approach?

I haven't seen any official list of who agrees with who, so you could explain what is my 'approach' and provide such list.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Refer to me to a specific example where you don't agree with them.

I don't agree with all of Vangelovski's views where it concerns gun control, check the relevant thread. I don't agree with all of Indigen's views where it concerns people like Vasil Iljov, check the relevant thread. Do you want more examples?

Now, are you going to answer my request, or inappropriately respond to it with another request of your own?

I haven't seen any official list of who agrees with who, so you could explain what is my 'approach' and provide such list.

What list? What are you talking about? By your 'approach' I am making reference to this 'secret' initiative of yours. And I already explained why Macedonians are tired of 'secrets'.

I objected the abusive terminology such as calling them Slavs, Vassals, Yugos, Serbomans, servants etc. etc.

As a rule, I am against generalisations. However, are you denying that there are vassals and servants of foreign interests in Macedonia at the moment? What's the problem? Would you prefer a 'softer' approach towards these vassals and traitors? How should we refer to them?