The Macedonian Minority in Bulgaria

[fyrOM]

Originally Posted by optimist

I haven't heard about that and I've been to almost every city in Western Bulgaria - no Macedonian in sight. I appreciate that you love your country but you should accept some facts not just make them up or listen to politicians that brainwash you sometimes in order for you to re-elect them. I agree about the Albanians, but don't you agree that after the Second Balkan War many people from Macedonia fled to Bulgaria ? Why not flee to Serbia or Turkey ? And about the Macedonians again : yes, there are many people originating from the Macedonian area, but not from Macedonian ethnicity.

A man once went to Sofia and stood on a street corner intensely looking around.
A second man noticed him and asked the first what he was looking for.
The first man said People.
The second man looked around and could see a bustling city and confused he asked the first Are these not people.
No relied the first.
Ni svi bile lujge ni ke bidite.
Hopefully…Optimistically…you will be less than this sooner than 2050.

You moron I know Macedonians who were in Bulgaria for 70 years since the turn of last century and now in the USA who cannot be any more Bulgarian than I am.

Don’t waste our time being here with your dribble.

[Bill77]

Originally Posted by optimist

Also, the gypsies are 370 000 since the beggining of 2001 and they don't have that much babies as before.

Thats mabe because they are all at the football.

Hey optimist.....could you explain what the hell is going on here?



Where are the white Macedonia culture stealing Bulgarians ?

VIVA CSKA SOFIA

[optimist]

Does your History have any admittance worldwide ? I can say that Bulgaria created Rome, or that Bulgarians created China, if I'm a politician and make it a propaganda, what will you say to that ? There is no proof of that anywhere as much as in Macedonia about the Pirin region. Show me a statistic and proof and I'll believe it. About Alexander the Great - its like saying that because Athens was a different country from Greece, nowadays Athenians are not Greeks, they're descendants of Athena. You may have some history but in every worldwide document you are regarded as a nation since the 19th century. And the BIG QUESTION : How come Macedonia doesn't allow research on the History of Macedonians ? Is there any shocking truth ?

[optimist]

Originally Posted by Bill77

Thats mabe because they are all at the football.

Hey optimist.....could you explain what the hell is going on here?



Where are the white Macedonia culture stealing Bulgarians ?

VIVA CSKA SOFIA

And where'd you get that from ? Show me the site and I'll explain. Or just look at Wikipedia and write down CSKA SOFIA fans and you'll see only whites. Gypsies love football.... and that's a photograph of the gypsy corner of the fans. Its a scratch compared to the white side. And who again is stealing your culture ? You can't cope with facts from scientists ( and I remind the 2050 things were not made from real scientists).

[optimist]

Originally Posted by julie

optimist, the Pirin region has ethnic Macedonians, I suggest your Bulgarisation of the Macedonians that are there has not been very successful, and to be very careful of trying to discount our people there. You should be more concerned with your friend Turkey, and large percentage of Turks in Bulgaria, than continuing your pathetic attempts at exterminating Macedonians.
My maternal grandparents line of godparents live there. And I shall remind you, you are on the Macedonian Truth forum.

You should be worried about your friends Albania and the large percentage of Albanians instead of talking silly things - the only one exterminating is Macedonia, who is exterminating the Bulgarians there.

[julie]

optimist, enjoy your stay here, methinks it wont be a long one your sarcasm and racism wont be tolerated here.
You are dribbling your pathetic rants and raves, annexed a part of Macedonia and deny the basic human right to my people. You also denied entry to our dignitaries who afford yours the same priveleges a couple of months ago, and enforced a fascist regime on my people.

I suggest you take a little while to think about what you are writing, and stop denying us our ethnicity and our right to continue our existence, which has been ongoing for thousands of years, unlike your Turkish gypsy self

[Bill77]

Some things never change

[lavce pelagonski]

mizi majko da te lazam Optimist your words mean nothing here

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by optimist

I haven't heard about that and I've been to almost every city in Western Bulgaria - no Macedonian in sight.

Perhaps you should try opening your eyes in addition to your mind.

I appreciate that you love your country but you should accept some facts not just make them up or listen to politicians that brainwash you sometimes in order for you to re-elect them.

I would appreciate it if a resentful Bulgar like yourself wouldn't insinuate that Macedonians are brainwashed, as we are fully aware of our own history. It is you that has been brainwashed with fairytales consisting of a conglomerate of horse-riding Khans, Slavonic teachers and Orpheus. Don't look too far from your own yard if you want to criticise, I can assure you there is plenty to discuss about the historical narratives plucked out of your country.

Does your History have any admittance worldwide ?

Does yours? What do you mean worldwide? Have you went to Tanzania to ask them for their admittance?

There is no proof of that anywhere as much as in Macedonia about the Pirin region. Show me a statistic and proof and I'll believe it.

Census' were carried out after WWII. Are you pretending not to be aware of these?

About Alexander the Great - its like saying that because Athens was a different country from Greece, nowadays Athenians are not Greeks, they're descendants of Athena.

An ignorant and irrelevant statement.

You may have some history but in every worldwide document you are regarded as a nation since the 19th century.

Another ignorant statement. We asserted ourselves as a nation in the 19th century like the rest of the Balkans including yourselves, but our history begins earlier than that period, and only a blind fool would say otherwise today after all of the information that has been revealed. Do yourself a favour a research the forum, and then challenge everything, one at a time.

And the BIG QUESTION : How come Macedonia doesn't allow research on the History of Macedonians ? Is there any shocking truth ?

Macedonia "doesn't allow" research? How does it stop others from researching? What are you babbling about?

By the way, welcome to the MTO, excellent entrance and introduction on your behalf, I hope you achieved your aim and the perception you expected.

[optimist]

I see there's no use to try and talk. You should look at the Ottoman ethnic maps and see if there's a Macedonian nationality there. And this map may be useful to clear you up about that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bu...orBozhinov.png