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Old 05-12-2009, 11:25 PM   #141
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exactly rtg, given the fact that classical greece was also created to be something so much more than it really was, a type of perfect arayan culture of supermen, why wouldnt the modern greece want to consider themselves their decendents.
but as my father always points out imagine if modern greece was as successful as italy, they would be even more insufferable, the wannabbe hellenes.
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:45 PM   #142
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If modern 'greece' was never created there would have been an independent Macedonia complete and without later parts like 'Vardar, Pirin, Aegean, and Mala Prespa'.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:44 PM   #143
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YouTube - THE ALBANIAN CULTURE OF MODERN GREECE!
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:03 PM   #144
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Default Athens populated by many Arvanites in the 19th century!





Source: "Capitalizes: Webster’s Quotations, Facts and Phrases" By Icon Group International, Inc., page 170.


Why do many Greeks claim an unbroken line to Antiquity when no such exists?
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:56 AM   #145
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And if we examine what these Albanians claim to be descendents of from the 16th century then we know the modern "greek" is in trouble with trying to find a link to antiquity.
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Old 02-26-2010, 01:23 PM   #146
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Interesting timeline of Athens;


Athens: A History, From Ancient Ideal To Modern City By Robin Waterfield
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Sounds like the boy scouts would sack Athens to earn a badge.
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EllA re rtg they are not albanians they are arvaniti, they are grik albanians like grik macedonians, they are all from the north to they south east and the west all griks

NO ALBANIANS REALLY GREEKS LIKE THE COFFEE AND THE EASTER
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And about Albanians, my people. I have no clue about any Albanian who report Macedonians to the Greek authorities for speaking Macedonian. As far as I know, there are no Albanian compact villages in what is Aegean Macedonia (there are just a few villages in Fllorinė or as you call Lerinė). I think you're making a little mistake because it's not fair to prejudge all the people for two-three individuals. You cannot blame all of Albanians (who are traditionally anti-Greek) with some Albanian emmigrants there...maybe the reason why they reported (!?) to the Greek authorities was because they wanted to show some 'loyalty' to the 'Greek' authorities in hope to find some jobs or not to be banished from labor. Do you realize what I'am saying? Albanians (in Greece) have no better treat than Macedonians have. Albanians are assimilated, their language (Arvanitika) in some regions is dying fast, there are no schools in Arvanitika, no political rights, no recognize of their national identity.

Albanians by their nature are friendly and they always supported other people who share the same destiny. You know Albanians did their best to support Macedonian revolutionaries during Krusheva's Uprising. Albanians fought valiantly side with Macedonians against Ottoman troops. And Macedonians appreciated this...and that's why in Krusheva's short-lived Assembly Albanians had 40% of parlamentary seats. Later, during 1913's Anti-Serbian revolt Albanians fought together with Macedonians of Dibra.

Epirot, I would like to discuss this further here if you do not mind.
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