Macedonian Orthodox Church - News & Updates

[vicsinad]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Fyromians always seeking validation from someone.

This goes deeper than one Macedonian bishop:

Bishop Nahum in an interview with BTV stated that the Macedonian Orthodox Church -Ohrid Archbishopric sent a letter to the Holy Synod of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church asking to discuss the issue of recognizing the Macedonian Church and the BOC to become a church mother. Bulgarian state television BNT published a letter sent on November 9.

This is a rare historic opportunity that the BOC should not miss, said Metropolitan Nahum.

The Macedonian Orthodox Church - the Ohrid Archbishopric recognizes the BOC as its mother church, the BNT concluded, announcing the letter of 9 November, calling it a "historic document".

In the show "Vera and Society" on the Bulgarian state television BNT it is said that in the letter signed by the Macedonian Archbishop Stefan, the MOC-OA speaks of her mother church. The BOC has not yet responded to this request from the MOC.

The show said that the support of this idea was given by grandfather Pratenius, abbot of the monastery of St. John Bigorski. In addition, it was said that if the BOC agreed to this, he should know that he would face resistance from the Serbian and Russian churches, and that is also from the Ecumenical Patriarchate.

"This letter is an important historical opportunity for our church, which should not be crushed. For the first time, the Macedonian church recognizes the Bulgarian Church for Mother Church, "said the emissary.

Archimandrite Parthenius recently welcomed the signing of the Treaty of good neighborly relations with Bulgaria and said that the recognition of the autocephaly of the MOC-OA should come from the Bulgarian Patriarchate. Father Parthenius believes that the canonical jurisdiction in the territory now functioning by the MOC-OA, was last held by the Bulgarian Orthodox Church. Partenij encourages the Bulgarian hierarchs, in the name of the good relations between the two nations, the Macedonian and Bulgarian, the BOC to recognize the autocephaly of the MOC-OA.

"The Bulgarian Church, as the only true and worthy Mother Church, must with a broad heart be recognized by the Macedonian church, which, for half a century, has successfully performed its pastoral and evangelical mission in a multinational state, and is accepted by all Orthodox, regardless of their nationality. For example, in the Bigorski brotherhood we have one monk Serb, another Roma, the third Palestinian, and at the moment we have one ethnic Albanian novice, "says Archimandrite Parthenius.

In a letter dated November 9, among other things, it says:
"The Bulgarian Orthodox Church - Bulgarian Patriarchate, taking into account the unity of the Orthodox Church and the real spiritual and pastoral needs, establishes eucharistic unity with the restored Ohrid Archbishopric in the face of the Macedonian Orthodox Church.
The Macedonian Orthodox Church - Ohrid Archbishopric will be recognized and recognized by the Bulgarian Orthodox Church - the Bulgarian Patriarchate as a Mother Church, which first accepts and recognizes its autocephaly, identifies and actualizes it, represents and advocates for it before the Ecumenical Patriarchate and other local churches .

By signing this consent from the heads of the two churches, establish an eucharistic unity and among all their bishops, which will be the basis for the smooth establishment of the eucharistic unity and with the bishops of the other local Orthodox churches.

For the recognition and establishment of the Eucharistic unity, the Bulgarian Patriarch informs the Ecumenical Patriarch, as well as the heads of other local Orthodox churches.

We express hope in the Lord that these proposals and requests will be accepted by the Holy Bishop's Synod of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church, for the joy of St. Clement of Ohrid and for the benefit of the overall church completeness. "

https://www.mkd.mk/makedonija/politi...kva-da-i-stane

[Risto the Great]

We learned of extremely shady backroom deals in seeking acknowledgement with the SoC. And now we have it with the BoC.

Macedonian communities in the Diaspora have (often) violently opposed the confused agenda of the MoC-OA. I am sick of the people who still feel the only authentic religious event is one administered by MoC-OA when this obvious kind of rot exists at the head.

Macedonians everywhere need to be very careful about their allegiances. I fear we are going back to 150 years ago and the only real Macedonians who can be trusted are those you know in your own village.

Disgusting!

[Starling]

Can churches not just flip off all the other churches and be independent? Bogomilism was the movement that involved people being able to practice their religion without having to be validated by institutions right? Let's bring that back.

[Risto the Great]

Of course they can be independent.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

I fear we are going back to 150 years ago and the only real Macedonians who can be trusted are those you know in your own village.

Weren't those the least trustworthy?

[vicsinad]

Two video interviews of perspectives on the situation:

http://a1on.mk/archives/820349

http://a1on.mk/archives/820350

[vicsinad]

Bulgarian analysts begging the Bulgarian Church to seize this once in a lifetime opportunity to become MOC's mother church:

The Bulgarian Orthodox Church should use the historic opportunity to become a mother church of the Macedonian Orthodox Church, commented by some analysts in Bulgaria on the request of the MOC for Eucharistic unity with the BOC.

Milen Vrabevski, president of the Bulgarian Pamet Foundation in a statement on the Bulgarian National Television, says that BPC should accept the request of the MOC because, as he states, "there will not be a second such chance".

- I appeal to the Bulgarian patriarch Neofit to take the position of a spiritual father and to think that our spiritual brothers live on the other side. It is true to support the people in Macedonia, said Vrabevski.

According to him, in the fall there were meetings between Bulgarian and Macedonian bishops in Bulgaria, but the BOC Synod is still afraid to take the first step.

The former Director of the Bulgarian Directorate for Religion Lubomir Mladenov, who is one of the initiators of the contacts between the Macedonian and Bulgarian churches, is also accepted to accept the request from the MOC.

- It is inexcusable to miss this historical opportunity. Patriarch Neofit in your events should regard as a continuation of his consistent work and through his personal convictions to bring things to a good end, says Mladenov.

The Bulgarian National Television also featured the letter from the Holy Synod of the MOC - OA in which he urged the BOC to establish "Eucharistic unity with the renewed Ohrid Archbishopric in the face of the Macedonian Orthodox Church".

- The Macedonian Orthodox Church - Ohrid Archbishopric will recognize and recognize the Bulgarian Orthodox Church - the Bulgarian Patriarchate as the Mother Church, which first accepts and recognizes its autocephaly, identifies and actualizes it, represents and advocates for it before the Ecumenical Patriarchate and other local churches, says the letter from MOC-OA.

Bishop Nahum and Metropolitan of Strumica, according to MIA, said in an interview with Bulgarian TV that a new page was opened in the issue of church status of the MOC-OA, explaining that its autocephaly has not been recognized for political reasons.

- Macedonia and Bulgaria share a common religious history. BPC has a chance with the very recognition of MOC-OA to become the mother of MOC-OA. It is a rare historical opportunity that the BOC should not miss, said Bishop Naum.

For the letter and requests of the MOC-OA, there are no reactions from the Synod of BOC or from the Bulgarian patriarch Neophytes.

Original in Macedonian:

http://sitel.com.mk/bpc-treba-da-go-...i-analitichari

[Odi Zvezdo]

Well they're doing everything else to ensure the demise of Macedonia...may as well continue the trend...

IS THERE ANYONE IN MACEDONIA WHO IS NOT SITTING IN A CAFE ACTUALLY GIVING A FLYING F**K OF WHAT'S GOING ON TO THE COUNTRY???

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Odi Zvezdo

IS THERE ANYONE IN MACEDONIA WHO IS NOT SITTING IN A CAFE ACTUALLY GIVING A FLYING F**K OF WHAT'S GOING ON TO THE COUNTRY???

Macedonians are too clever. They have a plan for everything and know it will be realised in the end. It happens every time. They are the masterminds of the Balkans. Just wait and see.

[Odi Zvezdo]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Macedonians are too clever. They have a plan for everything and know it will be realised in the end. It happens every time. They are the masterminds of the Balkans. Just wait and see.

Yes, we've all heard the saying "pak ke teci rekata...ne se sekiraj te!!"