Macedonian Human Rights Movement International (MHRMI)

[julie]

Unfortunately, the United States, which has already recognized Macedonia, is calling for a "compromise". The US views itself as a leader in spreading democracy and human rights throughout the world. So how does it justify asking a country to change its own name?

The European Union and NATO have taken it one step further. In addition to calling for a "solution", the EU and NATO are allowing themselves to be handcuffed by Greece's racist and xenophobic policies. Every NATO member-state supported Macedonia's membership, yet Greece was permitted to veto it.


These countries are holding Macedonia to ransom. What ass holes

[Makedonska_Kafana]

These countries are holding Macedonia to ransom. What ass holes

it's blackmail and against the law

[Pelister]

They are blackmailing the Macedonians, sure, but Gruevski and Co. are in fact the ones meddling and interfering with our historical and political identity, because it is Gruevski that has our identity on the negotiating table right now, not the Greeks. The Greeks can say what they want and they have said what they want about us. But it is the Macedonians who made the decision to negotiate our identity. So ask yourself 'who' is actually interfering and meddling with our identity, now? Also, consider this. Why would Gruevski expose us in such a way? If he is the representative of the Macedonian people, and the Macedonian people are against him negotiating, why do it? Clearly Macedonia could be admitted to the U.N 'tommorrow' if it simply chose to exercise its legal rights. So why won't Gruevski do that? As yourself why all the most reasonable, rational and sensible (not to mention legal) options have been discarded systematically by Gruevski? Has he ever made it clear exactly whats on the table? Do we see Gruevski's pen marks tinkering with the definitions of the name 'Macedonia' behind the scenes, or realise that it is a process that Gruevski is happy to be a part of? The answer is no. Don't the Macedonians have a right to know? Does this mean a manufactor from Gevgelija can't put 'Made in Macedonia' on the label of his exports? I think the VMRO party needs a big shake up. I think heads have to roll and I think Gruevski should be shamefully thrown out of government, and jailed, for acting against the Macedonian people.

[julie]

Pelister, agreed on all points.

[The LION will ROAR]

They are blackmailing the Macedonians, sure, but Gruevski and Co. are in fact the ones meddling and interfering with our historical and political identity, because it is Gruevski that has our identity on the negotiating table right now, not the Greeks. The Greeks can say what they want and they have said what they want about us. But it is the Macedonians who made the decision to negotiate our identity. So ask yourself 'who' is actually interfering and meddling with our identity, now? Also, consider this. Why would Gruevski expose us in such a way? If he is the representative of the Macedonian people, and the Macedonian people are against him negotiating, why do it? Clearly Macedonia could be admitted to the U.N 'tommorrow' if it simply chose to exercise its legal rights. So why won't Gruevski do that? As yourself why all the most reasonable, rational and sensible (not to mention legal) options have been discarded systematically by Gruevski? Has he ever made it clear exactly whats on the table? Do we see Gruevski's pen marks tinkering with the definitions of the name 'Macedonia' behind the scenes, or realise that it is a process that Gruevski is happy to be a part of? The answer is no. Don't the Macedonians have a right to know? Does this mean a manufactor from Gevgelija can't put 'Made in Macedonia' on the label of his exports? I think the VMRO party needs a big shake up. I think heads have to roll and I think Gruevski should be shamefully thrown out of government, and jailed, for acting against the Macedonian people.

[Daskalot]

Akzion tried to post this poster by MHRMI before but somehow failed to do so, so here it is:

It is the English version of the Macedonian above.

[Pelister]

Pelister is on the right track.

Every Macedonian has been lied to, if you consider that we are not in fact 'blocked' from the United Nations. So Gruevski is without a doubt up to mischief. If the Macedonian people believe he is 'honest' it is because they have been decieved principally by him into believing that they are blocked, that they have 'no choice' and that he will be the one to find a 'solution' and 'save Macedonia'. These are common assumptions that have been made as people try to make sense of all of this madness. If UMD for example, continue to tell us 'we have no choice', or 'our hands are tied' or 'we have to negotiate', people will believe it only a politician could exploit such assumptions be then proposing he will be the one to find a 'solution'. We are sinking is this shit and no politician has the clarity, fortitude and vision to be honest about this madness.

[MHRMI]

MHRMI and AMHRC Demand a Macedonian Government that Will Defend Macedonia's Interests

MHRMI and AMHRC Demand a Macedonian Government that Will Defend Macedonia's Interests

Toronto, Canada and Melbourne, Australia (March 5, 2011) - Even more disturbing than every Macedonian government's continued participation in the nonsensical name negotiations is the recent letter by Foreign Minister Antonio Miloshoski to the United Nations Secretary-General that states, "In the course of those negotiations, the Republic of Macedonia accepted a number of proposals put forward by Mr. Nimetz as a basis for a solution, including the proposal of March 2008 of "Republic of Macedonia (Skopje)", which the Hellenic Republic regrettably rejected."

If any Macedonian government is willing to change Macedonia's name, they would go down in history as traitors to the Macedonian people.

The leader of SDSM, Branko Crvenkovski, is headed down this path as he repeatedly calls on Macedonia to change its name to enter the EU and NATO, and uses the pro-SDSM media to instil fear among the public and threaten Macedonia's collapse without membership. Ironically, Crvenkovski criticizes VMRO-DPMNE for its handling of the "name dispute", yet he was the President of Macedonia when the Nimetz proposals were accepted. He was Prime Minister when the ruling SDSM accepted the ludicrous acronym "FYROM" and had the audacity to change Macedonia's flag. Branko Crvenkovski and the SDSM are in no position to criticize anybody based on Macedonia's national interests.

If the recent letter to the UN is a ploy to appease Western pressure on Macedonia to find a "solution", it is backfiring. By participating in the name negotiations, Macedonia is legitimizing Greece's ridiculous claims and is indicating that it will change its name.

Greece is using the standard "offence is the best defence" tactic. Macedonia should be employing the same strategy, especially because of one distinct advantage; the truth.

Macedonia should make it clear to the world that Greece, ironically, now claims that "Macedonia is Greek", but it was not until 1988, when Greece realized that independence for the Republic of Macedonia was imminent, that it renamed "Northern Greece" to "Macedonia." Prior to 1988, Greece’s policy was that Macedonia did not exist.

Macedonia must expose the reason for Greece's initiation of the ridiculous name dispute - to deny the existence and persecution of its large Macedonian minority. Former Greek Prime Minister Constantine Mitsotakis admitted as such in 1995.

Instead of vehemently defending Macedonia's name and identity, the Macedonian government, in the letter to the UN, apologetically explains the building of Macedonian historical statues in the context of the 1995 Interim Accord. How many other countries would need permission to celebrate their history?

In response to Greece claiming a violation by the Republic of Macedonia "...of article 7 of the Interim Accord in the form of 'a series of relief representations of prominent Greek historical figures of Ancient Macedonia, such as the Vergina sun … on the basis [sic] of the lion statues at the 'Goce Delcev' road bridge in Skopje'", the government even "proudly" states "...that the symbol formerly displayed on the Republic of Macedonia’s national flag...had been removed from the statues on the bridge in question."

There was no entity known as Greece during the time of Ancient Macedonia. Greece was created by the powers of Europe in the 1830s, yet it has the temerity to dictate present-day politics based on arbitrary interpretations of ancient history.

According to former US Secretary of State, Lawrence Eagleburger, "Greece claims that Macedon or Macedonia, as well as Alexander of Macedonia are its own. This is a false claim and it is time someone confirms this." He added, "The Greek claim about Macedonia is based on historically incorrect information and are therefore not fact-based."

Macedonia must point out Greece's twisting of ancient history in an attempt to deflect attention away from the current situation. 131 countries have recognized Macedonia, including four of the five permanent UN Security Council members. As stated in the Our Name is Macedonia campaign, "We are winning. We have the power to end this. Stop negotiating our own name".

Macedonian Human Rights Movement International (MHRMI) and the Australian Macedonian Human Rights Committee (AMHRC) initiated the Our Name is Macedonia campaign in July 2010, which demands that Macedonia end all negotiations with Greece over its name. The campaign includes billboards throughout Macedonia, ads in print and online editions of major newspapers, television commercials, press conferences, radio interviews and the distribution of hundreds of thousands of flyers throughout the country.

• Our organizations have consistently denounced the name negotiations and condemned SDSM for agreeing to the "temporary reference" of "FYROM" and subsequently changing the flag.
• We condemn SDSM and their media for scare-mongering and claiming that Macedonia must change its name to enter the EU and NATO, or risk collapse.
• We demand that VMRO fulfill its promise that it will never change Macedonia's name by immediately ending the name negotiations.
• Furthermore, we demand that Macedonia revert to the original flag and immediately end the acceptance of "FYROM" or "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia".
• Finally, MHRMI and AMHRC call on every Macedonian organization and individual to sign on to the Our Name is Macedonia campaign.

https://www.mhrmi.org/our_name_is_macedonia

Silence is not an option. Our Name is Macedonia.

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Macedonian Human Rights Movement International (MHRMI) has been active on human and national rights issues for Macedonians and other oppressed peoples since 1986. For more information, please visit www.mhrmi.org, or contact MHRMI at 416-850-7125, or [email protected].

Established in 1984 the Australian Macedonian Human Rights Committee (AMHRC) is a non governmental organisation that informs and advocates to governments, international institutions and broader communities about combating discrimination and promoting basic human rights. Our aspiration is to ensure that Macedonian communities and other excluded groups throughout the world are recognised, respected and afforded equitable treatment. For more information please visit www.macedonianhr.org.au, or contact AMHRC at [email protected] or via +61 3 93298960.

[MHRMI]

MHRMI and AMHRC Demand a Macedonian Government that Will Defend Macedonia's Interests

MHRMI and AMHRC Press Release - March 5, 2011

http://macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=91743#post91743

[Risto the Great]

Nice response.

[Vangelovski]

Good work.

[Phoenix]

Well done guys.

I'd love to see more diaspora organizations being signatories to these statements and official letters...

Everyone has a stake in this, everyone from our diaspora leadership groups to the local community, football/soccer clubs, the cultural groups, the pensioners associations and the Church committees.
Every single group or association that carries the Macedonian name and identity in its title has to put their full support behind these initiatives...

Clearly the Macedonian government and a couple of rogue ministers believe that they're the only stakeholders in this process...

Only a unified response of people-power will negate their lunatic ambitions...

[sydney]

what are the compelling mechanisms for the macedonian government to listen to the diaspora and take actions based on their demands?

[Risto the Great]

what are the compelling mechanisms for the macedonian government to listen to the diaspora and take actions based on their demands?

Aside from self respect, I would say almost nothing.
However, Macedonia will ignore its Diaspora at its peril.

[BigMak]

what are the compelling mechanisms for the macedonian government to listen to the diaspora and take actions based on their demands?

The diaspora needs to take a firm approach and threat the Macedonian government, if all of our efforts fail, there is no option than physical force.