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Old 07-04-2017, 09:41 PM   #201
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Forgot to mention the map above was made in 1916 (specifies in the bottom right)
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Old 07-05-2017, 02:59 AM   #202
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Old 07-05-2017, 09:00 AM   #203
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I posted this map a couple of months ago in a different thread

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A detailed map published in Warsaw by a Russian ethnographer (Александр Фёдорович Риттих) in 1885 showing the Slavic population of the Balkans. This map was a product of many years of research he conducted during the 1800s. You can see the villages in Epirus, Thessaly, and Halkidiki where he found elderly people who still had knowledge of their native Slavic dialects. By 1900 they were completely lost and assimilated by the surrounding populations.

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Old 07-06-2017, 01:14 AM   #204
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I posted this map a couple of months ago in a different thread
I believe where Bulgaira would of been, is written 'Rumelia'. Also notice a different shade is used when highlighting Macedonian, differentiating it from Bulgarian and Serbian or is that just fade from age?
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:27 AM   #205
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I believe where Bulgaira would of been, is written 'Rumelia'. Also notice a different shade is used when highlighting Macedonian, differentiating it from Bulgarian and Serbian or is that just fade from age?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Rumelia

It's a fade

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Kumanovo is named after these Cumans.
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Kumanovo is named after these Cumans.
Hi LoM,

Indeed - here are some additional citations.

1) The Byzantine Turks, 1204-1461, Rustam Shukurov

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http://www.academia.edu/25481924/The...urks_1204-1461

Pages 170 and 171: The Vardar Valley, Skopje, Strumica

- Kumanski Brod near Skopje
- Kumanicevo in the southern part of the valley of the Vardar
- Kumanova southeast of Skopje

The Asians of Palaiokastron in the Strumica region were mostly of Qipchaq descent as well:

- Komanos
- Two women by the name of Komanka
- And very likely Turkopulos

2) Radic Radivoj, "Кумани", 2008

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http://blacksea.ehw.gr/Forms/fLemmaB...?lemmaID=11920

- After the Mongol invasion, the influx of Cumans into the "Byzantine" regions increased. In the year 1241, John III Vatatzes settled 10,000 Cumans in Thrace and Asia Minor, and in 1259 the Cuman contingents played a major role in the battle of Pelagonia. One of the best "Byzantine" warlords of the 14th century, Sirgian, was at least half-Cuman -- his father was a Cuman.

3) Unrelated to the Cumans, but adding it here.

"... northwards into Macedonia pure Greeks are no longer to be found. All the communities which are included under that designation are Wallachs; or Romounoi, as they call themselves -- Greco - Wallachs, as they are called by the Hellenes."

Twixt Greek and Turk; Or, Jottings During a Journey Through Thessaly ..., By Sir Valentine Chirol, Year 1881

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https://books.google.ca/books?id=bjU...mounoi&f=false

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a history of greece from its conquest by the romans to the present time, By george finlay

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Page 76:

- The legion of the guards, which usually did duty on the outer walls of the great palace at Constantinople, was commanded by Constantine Opos. The Macedonian legion, recruited in great part from the Sclavonian population of that province, was under the orders of Antiochos.

- The contingent of Turkish troops, from a colony settled near Achrida, to overawe the Sclavonian population, and keep open the communication with the Adriatic by the Via Egnatia, was led by Tatikios, an active and able soldier, son of a Saracen who had been taken prisoner by John Comnenus, the emperor's father.
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Old 02-25-2018, 09:21 PM   #210
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Hi LoM,

Indeed - here are some additional citations.

1) The Byzantine Turks, 1204-1461, Rustam Shukurov

URL:
http://www.academia.edu/25481924/The...urks_1204-1461

Pages 170 and 171: The Vardar Valley, Skopje, Strumica

- Kumanski Brod near Skopje
- Kumanicevo in the southern part of the valley of the Vardar
- Kumanova southeast of Skopje

The Asians of Palaiokastron in the Strumica region were mostly of Qipchaq descent as well:

- Komanos
- Two women by the name of Komanka
- And very likely Turkopulos

2) Radic Radivoj, "Кумани", 2008

URL:
http://blacksea.ehw.gr/Forms/fLemmaB...?lemmaID=11920

- After the Mongol invasion, the influx of Cumans into the "Byzantine" regions increased. In the year 1241, John III Vatatzes settled 10,000 Cumans in Thrace and Asia Minor, and in 1259 the Cuman contingents played a major role in the battle of Pelagonia. One of the best "Byzantine" warlords of the 14th century, Sirgian, was at least half-Cuman -- his father was a Cuman.

3) Unrelated to the Cumans, but adding it here.

"... northwards into Macedonia pure Greeks are no longer to be found. All the communities which are included under that designation are Wallachs; or Romounoi, as they call themselves -- Greco - Wallachs, as they are called by the Hellenes."

Twixt Greek and Turk; Or, Jottings During a Journey Through Thessaly ..., By Sir Valentine Chirol, Year 1881

URL:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=bjU...mounoi&f=false
From a Bulgarian book - writing to Tsanoff on March 7, 1879, Rev. J.H. House, among many other things, states the following about Macedonian Greeks:

"... in general those who call themselves Greeks, are either Vlachs or Grecianized Bulgarians." (Tsanoff, A.S., Bulgaria in the Eastern Question)

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