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Old 01-18-2010, 01:18 AM   #1491
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Not that I'm really interested in this anymore, but I just have a problem with inaccurate statements... from anyone.

So, just to clear it up, Currency Trader on the maknews forum, is not a UMD Board Member as Paul suggests above (or even a member, to the best of my knowledge).

Paul, perhaps in the interest of accuracy and truth, you could change it to write 'sympathiser', instead? In fact, the title of this thread is incorrect and misleading.

I trust that you work in the interests of truth and accuracy, which is, after all, the purpose of this forum.

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Old 01-18-2010, 01:40 AM   #1492
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Rogi, Currency Trader is not exactly the easiest person to get along with, his biased views on Pelister and his disgraceful behavior is no reason for you to be taking his side.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:03 AM   #1493
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SUPPORT FOR NATO/EU – EVEN AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR NAME

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Meto Koloski on Macedonian Media Monitor
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Macedo.../message/10565
13 March 2008



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We have to be realistic, Macedonia if it wants to join NATO and EU it
has to join under a modified name, for those organizations ONLY.


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On Meto Koloski on ZMR
(at 1:38 minutes - YouTube - ZMR United Macedonian Diaspora - Macedonia Name)



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..."we feel that perhaps a political modifier such as Democratic might be more acceptable only for international use to get rid of this erroneous name the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia"...
As I have stated before, I agree entirely with neither side in this dispute. However, the above points 1 and 2 cannot be disputed. Meto Koloski, the UMD president, clearly advocates a name other than (Republic of) Macedonia for use in international organisations such as the UN, EU and NATO.

If anybody can dispute this, I would be interested to see your arguments, because I believe whatever is produced to the contrary is re-interpretation of the facts gone crazy, sort of like the Maknews version of 'political correctness'.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:21 AM   #1494
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Prolet, my post has nothing in it to suggest that I am 'taking sides'. My post is purely for the sake of truth and accuracy. It is suggested here that Currency Trader is a UMD Board Member, when this is not the case. That is the extent of my post.

I will hold anyone, including myself, Paul, UMD, politicians, anyone, to account for inaccuracies in statements or allegations.

It's up to other posters to rectify their inaccuracies, unless they are ok with making fallacious statements.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:31 AM   #1495
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As I have stated before, I agree entirely with neither side in this dispute. However, the above points 1 and 2 cannot be disputed. Meto Koloski, the UMD president, clearly advocates a name other than (Republic of) Macedonia for use in international organisations such as the UN, EU and NATO.

If anybody can dispute this, I would be interested to see your arguments, because I believe whatever is produced to the contrary is re-interpretation of the facts gone crazy, sort of like the Maknews version of 'political correctness'.
I have been on the fence till now SOM. After seeing those two points, i feel like vomiting. Meto, Maknews, and all the two faced dogs can kiss my ass.

There is no logical explanation to this. Unless it is a forgery,To those that want to defend it, Don't evan bother trying to dispute it or weasal your way out of this. i am pissed off and best i disapear for a while before i say something i may regret.
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:03 AM   #1496
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I have been on the fence till now SOM. After seeing those two points, i feel like vomiting. Meto, Maknews, and all the two faced dogs can kiss my ass.

There is no logical explanation to this. Unless it is a forgery,To those that want to defend it, Don't evan bother trying to dispute it or weasal your way out of this. i am pissed off and best i disapear for a while before i say something i may regret.
Bill, this is no forgery, please follow the link and you will see video footage of Meto speculating on what names might be "acceptable". Meto has never denied making those statements (he can't, there's video evidence), however, he has never (to my knowledge) attempted to explain them either.
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:57 AM   #1497
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Bill, this is no forgery, please follow the link and you will see video footage of Meto speculating on what names might be "acceptable". Meto has never denied making those statements (he can't, there's video evidence), however, he has never (to my knowledge) attempted to explain them either.
Who the fuck does Meto think he is, what qualifications has that fuckin' ovchar got to speculate on "acceptable" names...
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:58 AM   #1498
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You know what TM...I really don't give a rats arse about constitutional law 101 from Buktop or the other shit that has been used in an attempt to divert the subject.

I want to know why UMD are applauding Macedonia's involvement in Afghanistan

I want to know why UMD can't criticize the Europeans but chooses soft language that simply doesn't reflect the feelings of the diaspora

I want to know why many UMD members feel that people outside of the organization don't deserve personal responses from questions to UMD

I want to know why Meto entertained ideas for a change of name

I want to know why UMD are so ambiguous in many policy areas like the Interim accord and Framework Agreement

TM, there's many, many issue surrounding UMD, why does Meto refuse to respond on the same forums he readily posts on to promote UMD

Too many questions, not enough answers
You don't care that I proved your god Vangelovski a liar and a CHARLATAN in his own knowledge of constitutional law? And yet you still blindly devour every word he spews as absolute truth?

All the questions you have just asked have been answered and if you didn't understand the answers then go ask UMD or Meto, don't act like a tough guy on the internet.
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:01 AM   #1499
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Especially when nobody even heard of him let alone elected him president he just says it on our behalf!
According to your god Vangelovski
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The management structures were put in place and people just took on roles (this needs to be done for any upstart organisation)
And by the way, the board members elected Meto as president, Meto gave up his day job, and any other opportunities he could have had and sacrificed his time and his personal life to help Macedonians everywhere. He's not just some part time propagandist like many of the people here on this forum.
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You don't care that I proved your god Vangelovski a liar and a CHARLATAN in his own knowledge of constitutional law? And yet you still blindly devour every word he spews as absolute truth?

All the questions you have just asked have been answered and if you didn't understand the answers then go ask UMD or Meto, don't act like a tough guy on the internet.
Buktop, asking questions hasn't got anything to do with being a "tough guy" on the internet...have I ever threatened you with physical violence...?
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