United Macedonia Diaspora

[Risto the Great]

Apparently he represents all members of the United Macedonian Diaspora, this is not apparently meant to include the Macedonian Diaspora ... unless it does. And Meto did not say what was included on the Youtube link except for the fact he did.

Is that clear?

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Warrior

OK, so what portion of the macedonian community does the UMD represent? And where have they clarified that UMD views are the views of that portion?

If you had sent them an e-mail, attended one of their workshops or community meetings, contacted your representatives, or answered one of their letters, then you are represented. IF you can't be bothered to get off your ass and contact UMD then IMO you aren't even worth their time.

By the way, elections are to be held in 2011, board members serve 3 year terms, and board members were appointed in February, 2008.

[Rogi]

Warrior, who from UMD's board did you contact?

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Buktop, asking questions hasn't got anything to do with being a "tough guy" on the internet...have I ever threatened you with physical violence...?

I never accused you of threatening me, but you never ceased to find colorful names for me.

The thing that bothers me is that Vangelovski has been exposed as a liar and a charlatan (in his own "supposed" area of study) and people still take his word as gospel.

I have no problem with you asking questions, when you listen to the answers. By all means, if your actions are made with good intentions and sincerity, I 100% support it and encourage it. But I will not stand for claims with no substance and lies perpetuated by personal agenda.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Apparently he represents all members of the United Macedonian Diaspora, this is not apparently meant to include the Macedonian Diaspora ... unless it does. And Meto did not say what was included on the Youtube link except for the fact he did.

Is that clear?

Wow...with that level of ambiguity Risto you should apply to be UMD's press release writer...

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Buktop

If you had sent them an e-mail, attended one of their workshops or community meetings, contacted your representatives, or answered one of their letters, then you are represented.

If anybody does all of that and seeks to reconcile Meto's statements about the name of Macedonia with UMD policy, are they represented?

Buktop, clearly I am joking. I know we will never get a reconciliation between Meto's statements on Youtube and UMD policy.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Wow...with that level of ambiguity Risto you should apply to be UMD's press release writer...

I won't waste a moment in doing it Phoenix.
The MTO thanks you for your interest.

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Pelister

All the evidence suggests that UMD is a tool of Western foriegn policy.

1. UMD support for the negotiations
2. UMD support for Macedonians entry into the EU and NATO by the term FYROM
3. UMD who are pushing for Macedonia's "Integration" into Western institutions that negate us.

Why don't you look at your god Vangelovski's statements on page 3 of UMD's quarterly magazine in summer 2007 and the statements he made then.

In general, we will continue to work for the rights of Macedonians and Macedonian communities across the world and for Macedonia's integration into the European Union and NATO organizations.

Tom Vangelovski

And you still don't have proof of any of your allegations.

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Bill, this is no forgery, please follow the link and you will see video footage of Meto speculating on what names might be "acceptable". Meto has never denied making those statements (he can't, there's video evidence), however, he has never (to my knowledge) attempted to explain them either.

What MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE.

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Who the fuck does Meto think he is, what qualifications has that fuckin' ovchar got to speculate on "acceptable" names...

More than you do apparently...