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Old 04-23-2009, 12:21 AM   #151
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Volk, you read and hear and still you don't understand. But we've already been through this a million times on Maknews.

And yes, RtG is right, you do advocate a name change for the sake of NATO - your own post betrays you.
Keep spreading your disinformation campaign...

Oh ok, you can tell we what I believe in right? I guess so, just like you can state what the UMD stands for??

What a joke, I have never called for a name change and never will, under any circumstance, if you cant understand my straight forward post your either stupid or willfully attempting to discredit me.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:24 AM   #152
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Volk,

YOU wrote YOUR post, RtG didn't write it for you. If you no longer hold that view, then great.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:26 AM   #153
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Please underline the part which I call for a name change.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:31 AM   #154
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Volk, how about you read over you comments and try to understand the logic to what you are saying. I accept that you may have written it in a hurry and perhaps the choice of wording is confusing others as to what you really mean't. However, as it stands, you imply that you are ready to accept a name (that is not MACEDONIA) for the sake of joining NATO.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:38 AM   #155
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as it stands, you imply that you are ready to accept a name (that is not MACEDONIA) for the sake of joining NATO.
No what I implied is that we should join under fyrom, instead of not joining at all. I have re-read it and fail to understand how one could come to a conclusion that I call for a name change..
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:39 AM   #156
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So you believe we should join NATO under a name other than Macedonia?
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:42 AM   #157
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So you believe we should join NATO under a name other than Macedonia?
Van,

Volk brings a good point. I mean, let's face it. We joined the UN under FYROM, yet I don't see any "patriots" advocating we leave that organization because we were not admitted as Republic of Macedonia.
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Nikodim, are you a member of UMD?
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Nikodim, are you a member of UMD?

Why does it matter?
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:50 AM   #160
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Why does it matter?
It doesn't really, but you're stance is very similar, so I was just wondering...
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