United Macedonia Diaspora

[Soldier of Macedon]

Mitreski, care to address?

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Buktop

He had every right to state his disapproval of the actions of WMC in regards to the NJ community, just as you are stating your disapproval of UMD activities, this by no means makes it UMD policy.

I didn't question his right to state his opinion, I merely pointed out that he has an opinion and posted what that opinion is/was.

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

I didn't question his right to state his opinion, I merely pointed out that he has an opinion and posted what that opinion is/was.

understood

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

How has he been caught red handed? Are you also trying to imply that Pelister did not produce the same email to us, that was sent to him by Mitreski?

I am implying that he has been known to take comments out of context whether intentionally or by mistake. And numerous people have pointed that out.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Do you believe that Pelister has supplied a manipulated version of Mitreski's email, rather than the genuine article? Or is it Mitreski who is trying to re-interpret his earlier comments? I am looking forward to Pelister's response and input on this.

[Vangelovski]

Taking into account Mitreski's previous comments, it seems that he has embroiled himself into Meto's "name-gate" scandal.

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

Do you believe that Pelister has supplied a manipulated version of Mitreski's email, rather than the genuine article? Or is it Mitreski who is trying to re-interpret his earlier comments? I am looking forward to Pelister's response and input on this.

I am nearly 100% sure that Pelister is taking Mitreski's statements out of context. Is it not true that the criteria for entry into NATO and EU negotiation of the name? He never said we should, he said if we want to get into NATO or EU then negotiation is required. I am sure you realize this.

Once again, this whole argument is based on the quotes that are provided out of context.

And if you notice, Pelister seems to avoid responding to these questions.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Buktop

I am nearly 100% sure that Pelister is taking Mitreski's statements out of context.

Buktop, that isn't what I asked. I wanted to know if you are of the opinion that the email sent by Mitreski to Pelister has been manipulated. Namely, are you implying (as Mitreski seems to be) that Pelister played with the wording or changed parts of the email prior to putting it up for public display?

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Buktop

I am nearly 100% sure that Pelister is taking Mitreski's statements out of context. Is it not true that the criteria for entry into NATO and EU negotiation of the name? He never said we should, he said if we want to get into NATO or EU then negotiation is required. I am sure you realize this.

Once again, this whole argument is based on the quotes that are provided out of context.

Buktop,

If you want some "context", then you should view the comments within the context of UMD's key objectives - and that's Macedonia's entry into NATO and the EU.

UMD has consistently argued that Macedonia should join these organisations. In fact, it has claimed devastating consequences if it doesn't. Meto's (and it appears now Mitreski's) answer on how Macedonia can "realistically" join these organisation is for it to change its name.

So, viewing their comment's within the context of UMD's key policy objectives of NATO and EU membership, its difficult to see how it could be reasonably understood that these two (President and Vice President) do not support a name change.

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

Buktop, that isn't what I asked. I wanted to know if you are of the opinion that the email sent by Mitreski to Pelister has been manipulated. Namely, are you implying (as Mitreski seems to be) that Pelister played with the wording or changed parts of the email prior to putting it up for public display?

Originally Posted by Pelister

Recently the Vice-President of UMD (who by now probably hates me), said that He personally agreed with Nimetz, that TO INTEGRATE, WE MUST NEGOTIATE.

This is Pelister's initial statement. I assume you realize what he is implying.

Originally Posted by AMitreski

THIS IS A FULL BLOWN LIE AND YOU KNOW IT. I pointed out to you exactly what my statement was ( you ahve it in your inbox), but here you go again spread lies.

All I said was that Nimetz told me that Macedonia is not required to negotiate its name. And I said he is right! We do not have to.

STOP LYING AND TWISTING THINGS FOR YOUR OWN SICK BENEFIT.

This is Mitreski's response

I am not saying that the literal text was manipulated, I am saying its meaning was.

And this is not the first time Pelister has taken quotes out of context, whether it be deliberately or mistakenly.