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Old 06-11-2010, 01:56 PM   #4021
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If you have a chance to make it over, you'll need to partake in the great Australian tradition: the pub crawl.
Thanks sf - one day I hope - and seeing that there is no consensus on the best Australian beer we are left with no choice but try them all and decide - although from the sounds of it I'll try VB last.
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:54 PM   #4022
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Thanks sf - one day I hope - and seeing that there is no consensus on the best Australian beer we are left with no choice but try them all and decide - although from the sounds of it I'll try VB last.
Yes, most definitely!
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Old 06-11-2010, 08:38 PM   #4023
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:04 PM   #4024
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Mikail, How do you rate Carlton Draft?
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Old 06-13-2010, 03:19 AM   #4025
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Re: Ohrid Framework Agreement - UMD is not pleased the way this document was signed, under the international community's pressure, however, UMD will not tackle this issue at the moment, nor does it have a specific position on the issue. We know and understand everyone's concerns about this one, but UMD has set some priorities, and that priority is the protection of our name.

UMD solicits donations and memberships from what large segment of the Diaspora? Close to 70% of our membership and donors have heritage from the Aegean part of geographic Macedonia, if this is what you are asking.
It would appear that the "UMD" has most support from uninformed and gullible, though most likely well intentioned, excepting the 5th columnist MPO bugaromani and their alternative agendas, Macedonians originating from the Aegean part of ethno-historic Macedonia. We learn something new every day! :-)

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Meto: "UMD will not tackle this issue at the moment, nor does it have a specific position on the issue."

"...UMD is a leading international non-governmental organization addressing the interests and needs of Macedonians and Macedonian communities throughout the world...."
This IS pure BS, Meto! Read the start of this thread and compare with "nor does it have a specific position on the issue" and realise that you are LYING and DELUDING yourself! UMD is 100% PRO-RAMKOVIST!

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Old 06-13-2010, 03:48 AM   #4026
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Seriously, it is almost comical to read that the UMD "solicits donations and memberships" immediately after stating it does not have a position on one of the most fundamental attacks to the Macedonian identity in modern times.

Here is a more appropriate text:

The UMD hopes someone is stupid enough to give us money so that one day we might have a position on something. In the meanwhile, we will spend your money by meeting with politicians and telling them that we have no position on anything.
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Old 06-13-2010, 03:55 AM   #4027
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This recent UMD announcement is interesting. I notice MVB has not responded to my response to him. He forewarned me that something might happen really soon. So the UMD has finally decided negotiations must cease. What next? Where do go after making a decision like this? The interim accord is part of that "negotiation" and they have not rejected that. In fact, they do not have a position on that.
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Old 06-13-2010, 04:40 AM   #4028
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RtG,

On the contrary, its clear that UMD still supports the Interim Accord as they have reprimaned Greece for violating it in their latest press release. If they did not support it, they would not provide it with any legitimacy, let alone use it as an example of Greek 'intransigence'.

On the one hand, UMD has now, for the first time ever, called on the Macedonian Government to "cease" negotiations (although I'm still suspect of what they mean by "cease", I'll give them the benefit of the doubt), however, on the other hand, they have reminded Greece that it has not implemented its end of the bargain, showing that they consider the Interim Accord to be a legitimate agreement that they would like to implement if Greece were to allow Macedonia into the EU/NATO.
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Old 06-13-2010, 06:20 AM   #4029
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Seriously, it is almost comical to read that the UMD "solicits donations and memberships" immediately after stating it does not have a position on one of the most fundamental attacks to the Macedonian identity in modern times.

Here is a more appropriate text:

The UMD hopes someone is stupid enough to give us money so that one day we might have a position on something. In the meanwhile, we will spend your money by meeting with politicians and telling them that we have no position on anything.
More like safe, primarily legal language absolving themselves of a specific stance until a proper draft of their position can be published rather than putting out a position that will alienate and offend.
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Old 06-13-2010, 06:50 AM   #4030
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who are we going to alientate and offend?
Are we the only nation in this universe that cannot stand up for itself?
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