United Macedonia Diaspora

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Buktop

More like safe, primarily legal language absolving themselves of a specific stance until a proper draft of their position can be published rather than putting out a position that will alienate and offend.

What a pathetic defense. Sorry Buktop, it is not my style to attack the person, but what on Earth are you really supporting?

[Mikail]

It's more than obvious they (UMetoD) are all over the place. They do not have a clear cut position on anything at all.

It would be nice if one of the new Meto stooges who have come on board, go through 195 pages of questions and queries and try to set UMD on the right path. Or else let's stop this circus of putting the spotlight on UMD.

All we need to do is expose them. It's up to them to defend their actions. Something they have chosen to remain silent about.

So MVB, how about you do something your buddy has not, and that's clear the air of suspicion.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Buktop

More like safe, primarily legal language absolving themselves of a specific stance until a proper draft of their position can be published rather than putting out a position that will alienate and offend.

"Disclaimer" is UMD's catchphrase. Maybe before any of them say or write anything, they should repeat the following:

The following statement is soley the view of Meto Koloski's alter ego named Loopy Lou, and does not necessarily reflect the views of Meto Koloski the individual or CEO, or those of the United Macedonian Diaspora.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

"Disclaimer" is UMD's catchphrase. Maybe before any of them say or write anything, they should repeat the following:

The following statement is soley the view of Meto Koloski's alter ego named Loopy Lou, and does not necessarily reflect the views of Meto Koloski the individual or CEO, or those of the United Macedonian Diaspora.

I love Buktops work, an apologist and arse-kisser without peer...

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by julie

who are we going to alientate and offend?
Are we the only nation in this universe that cannot stand up for itself?

Well, Australians would be my guess, or in particular members here. But the fact that they do not currently have a position means they are taking the time to properly draft a position.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Buktop

But the fact that they (UMD) do not currently have a position means they are taking the time to properly draft a position.

How long do they need mate? Another 5 years? How do you properly draft a position that says "no negotiations except for the negotiations already negotiated" .... and still sound sane?

[Soldier of Macedon]

Buktop, seriously, that's pathetic.

How long has this issue existed for, how long has the UMD been around for - And they still (according to you) need more time to "draft" a position? You are a sorry apologist mate, and you haven't changed a bit. How pathetic it is to see Macedonians from America blindly following and defending the UMD at every turn, irrespective of their stupidity and treachery.

Why on earth would they "alienate" or "offend" Macedonians in Australia if they came out with a statement now? Oh that's right, lack of consistency, lack of integrity, lack of principle, etc. Now I remember why more than 95% voters went against UMD as their representative. Meto was a part of the 5%, forgot who the other one was, some blind apologist I would gather.

Do you know why people are apologists, Buktop? It has nothing to do with their support of the UMD, but more the fact that they support the UMD in decisions that are clearly and obviously wrong and not worthy of support by any self-respecting Macedonians.

[Pelister]

Originally Posted by Buktop

More like safe, primarily legal language absolving themselves of a specific stance until a proper draft of their position can be published rather than putting out a position that will alienate and offend.

I would agree with you on that in part. Sufficiently vague. I have never met any organization, nor any Macedonian on a personal level who has as low an opinion of Macedonians as UMD does.

I mean the hoops UMD are jumping, the compromises they have been making on our behalf to raise our estimates in the eyes of the fkn West, just amazes me every time.

UMD did not deliberately set out to alienate and offend Macedonians, it just has because of its position on critical issues facing us.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Buktop

Well, Australians would be my guess, or in particular members here. But the fact that they do not currently have a position means they are taking the time to properly draft a position.

C'mon Buktop, get off the fuckin' fence, you must enjoy the splinters in your arse...

"...taking time to properly draft a position"...what a fuckin' imbecile.

The fact that they do not currently have a position is glaring proof of their ineptitude to set a policy in concrete, it shows an inability to set a policy that will protect Macedonian interests, instead their dragging of feet reeks of subservience to somebody elses cause, not that of the Macedonian people...

UMD would much rather craft a dynamic policy, one that will bend in the wind to appease their masters in Washington and their crooked supporters within Macedonia...

[indigen]

Kiro Gligorov: “...The demand that Macedonia change its name is outside the scope of international law and practice. I ask you on the profound implications of agreeing to this demand.

Over two million people are to be told by the EC that, as from tomorrow, they are no longer Macedonians. To deny a people’s identity in this way is humiliating.

It is insulting to their national dignity and a denial of the right of justice for all small nations. In the Balkans, where whole ethnic groups have been changed as part of “ethnic cleansing” through the ages, the demand invokes deep fears.

Changing a people’s name is but a short step from denying their very existence and rights. It is the people of the Republic of Macedonia who have decided that they want a sovereign and independent state known as the Republic of Macedonia.

Gligorov is telling an untruth when he says the people voted for "Republic of" at the 1991 Referendum.

Државното име Македонија е затворено со референдумот од 8 септември 1991 година кога македонскиот народ и граѓаните во апсолутно мнозинство одлучија „за самостојна и суверена држава македонија“ без додавки и придавки. Одлуката на референдумот е задолжителна! SMK

This fact is often ignored in international discussions between governments. The political reality is that any government which bowed to international pressure to remove Macedonia from the country’s name would not survive, and any such decision would throw the whole country into turmoil and civil unrest....”

Gligorov may sound like an ardent hardliner in the above excerpts to some misguided souls but in reality it is the same doublespeak that UMDovci use and was setting the groundwork for the 1993 UN capitulation. His only prerequisite above is that the word "Macedonia" is PART of the name of the state and does NOT mean it should not be modified by prefixes or suffixes, as he soon afterwards accepted, and as the VASSAL SUCCESSORS are currently advocating for a permanent solution.

The name is our nation’s identity.
The European, December 10-13, 1992.