United Macedonia Diaspora

[rujnovino]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Do not test my patience.

Tough guy routine. Gotta love it...

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by rujnovino

I haven't contradicted myself at all. Meanwhile, I'm surprised you are unable to answer a couple basic questions when it doesn't suit you.

Show me which questions I have not answered. I have explained your contradiction - here it is again:

You claim not to support the IA and FA, yet you blindly and unreservedly support UMD which has publically supported those two agreements.

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by rujnovino

OR, they just don't agree with you, that's the other option.

That is perfectly fine, but if they do not agree with us, they should point out on which part of the cause they do not agree with and stop pretending that they do agree with us.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by rujnovino

Tough guy routine. Gotta love it...

Were you personally patting Bitove on the back at the awards night RV?

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Originally Posted by rujnovino

guy routine. Gotta love it...

UMD Pride? Abre, take one for the team Mary Poppins

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by rujnovino

Non-aligned?
That's highly suspect.

Actually it's not. I am in no mood to go through the same cyclic conversation with you again, so either re-read what has already been posted, or speak to a doctor about your inability to remember anything prior to yesterday.

SoM, when I hear you and Vangelovski lecture people about showing respect to fellow Macedonians, it makes me laugh.

When I read what people like you write, I don't laugh, because the fact that such apologetic views are harboured by Macedonians is a concern.

In the next sentences, you refer to the Macedonians in the UMD group as "ignorant, indoctrinated or scared". In other words, if Macedonians don't agree with you........

I couldn't care less if they don't agree with me personally. My concern is only when their views do not agree with the Macedonian Cause. And I was actually referring to Maknews, you know, that website which serves as a mouthpiece for the UMD? Why aren't you there spreading your 'vision', you will receive a much more receptive audience there as you try and re-interpret everything wrong the UMD have said and done in an effort to prove the opposite. People aren't nearly as stupid as you and your cohorts from the UMD would like for them to be. The saddest thing is that you clowns actually think the Macedonian people are stupid enough to believe all of the lies emanating from your pro-US, pro-EU and pro-Mk. government propaganda.

Have you figured out your purpose on this forum yet?

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Lubi, has been setup and bought by the UMD za jobe. Now, he refuses to post on his own site using "maknews". Warning, if the UMD invites you to speak at any event take along some KY Jelly because it will hurt for many years.

Makster, not even you can take that much vo gazo and keep smiling here - bend a little not 24/7.

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

Have you figured out your purpose on this forum yet?

Nothing, worse then dying lonely - I'm being serious

[Soldier of Macedon]

You know MK, it is no secret that Lubi and I didn't see eye to eye. And that is fair enough. We created the MTO, meanwhile Maknews sunk. But the fact that he blindly supports all UMD initiatives including those that are detrimental to the Macedonian Cause is an indication that the man has lost his principles. I may have been abrupt for some things a few years ago, and that has now changed, but I never lost my principles. He is not the same person we once knew, or perhaps this has always been him.

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

You know MK, it is no secret that Lubi and I didn't see eye to eye. And that is fair enough. We created the MTO, meanwhile Maknews sunk. But the fact that he blindly supports all UMD initiatives including those that are detrimental to the Macedonian Cause is an indication that the man has lost his principles. I may have been abrupt for some things a few years ago, and that has now changed, but I never lost my principles. He is not the same person we once knew, or perhaps this has always been him.

Well, he won't admit it but he knows he crossed the line when he joined the UMD, received financial support and spoke at the 2010 conference. I'm disappointed in his constant catch me if you can routine. For, TM to be pissed off will tell you that UMD ship is sinking.

Personal, donations really help but when you have organization joining/donating to push personal agenda's it's no longer a forum of truth. Funny, how my June events never seem to get posted where they belong. He's, waiting for the conference to pass first -- very stupid, because that's his own poster and the best Macedonian event in June. God, help them if they try to take ANY credit from those organizers - zero , to do with the UMD .. please see 69th Annual Macedonian Golf Open. I'm sure Meto will try to make it there again because money is never the problem with these lads .. to be continued

Not, a fan of buying results or getting paid indirectly -Greek style. I know why he's pissed off at human rights but that should not effect the truth - that's personal and money related. Should he be mad? Yes, Should he attack them because it cost him money? No

Personal stuff that you need to resolve.

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Originally Posted by rujnovino

I visited their conference last year in Toronto, and I met lots of great folks from different places, and different walks of life. It was a great experience for any Macedonian, and I would like to go again. (Not sure if I can make it this year, we'll see.)

Other, then meeting great folks from different places, shaking tons of hands and kissing babies you don't seem to be overly confident this time around. Now, that may have do with age, health, cost or family .. many factors. What, makes you think you're ANY different then anyone else and they don't have "lives" outside of the UMD? Special case?

99.9% you will not be attending so don't beat around the bush Maro Poppinovska

Oh, when most people read your quote above they too will see an annual wine and cheese party with live entertainment. What, did you learn over 3 days .. 250,000 Macedonians live in Australia? Toronto, is very expensive? Mayor Rob Ford's baba was not a Makedonka?

Please, list 9 things you didn't know before you attended that educational event (invest, support, donate) and you should be able to list 1,000 from what you know (very little) about Macedonia and Macedonians.

- Alex, I had no clue that not only can you wear a vest you can also read it