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Old 04-01-2018, 05:07 AM   #81
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Am i correct in thinking this photo was taken during world war 2, where Hitler would have still been alive?
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Am i correct in thinking this photo was taken during world war 2, where Hitler would have still been alive?
It was taken following the Bulgarian occupation of Skopje
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It was taken following the Bulgarian occupation of Skopje
Then it would have been before Tito became a leader.

This photo is circling a lot lately around social media during discussions in the latest name dispute. It only just occurred to me, that banner, map of the whole of Macedonia........ doesn't do well to the Greeks (who love spreading this image) propaganda on Macedonians being created by Tito.
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Then it would have been before Tito became a leader.

This photo is circling a lot lately around social media during discussions in the latest name dispute. It only just occurred to me, that banner, map of the whole of Macedonia........ doesn't do well to the Greeks (who love spreading this image) propaganda on Macedonians being created by Tito.
Does anyone know for certain which is the original photo and which is the photo-shopped one?

If the sign “One people, one king, one kingdom” was actually photo-shopped in, then that explains quite a lot. I too have seen this photo doing the rounds at various places where it's been used as evidence to show people's true sympathies regarding the Bulgarian occupation. “Bulgarian occupation” in the sense that, today, we know that is exactly what it was. In the minds of the naïve Macedonians, that came out to welcome the Bulgarians and pose with them for photos, they would have regarded them as saviours from the intolerable Serbian repression and the possible next step to Macedonian re-unification. ..And, if Hitler was the guy to bring that about, then so be it.

The division of Macedonia would still have been fresh in their minds at this time – Only 30 years since the Balkan wars and 40 years since the Ilinden Uprising. In addition, they would have been well aware that IMRO was still very active in Bulgaria while it was being persecuted by the Serbs in “Vardar Banovina” or “Southern Serbia”.

So, in the context of all this, coupled with the photo of a united Macedonia standing alone, with no Bulgaria in sight, it would be understandable from a Bulgarian point of view (and a Greek view) if someone wanted to photo-shop a sign in that suggests kinship with the invading Bulgarians.
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Does anyone know for certain which is the original photo and which is the photo-shopped one?

If the sign “One people, one king, one kingdom” was actually photo-shopped in, then that explains quite a lot. I too have seen this photo doing the rounds at various places where it's been used as evidence to show people's true sympathies regarding the Bulgarian occupation. “Bulgarian occupation” in the sense that, today, we know that is exactly what it was. In the minds of the naïve Macedonians, that came out to welcome the Bulgarians and pose with them for photos, they would have regarded them as saviours from the intolerable Serbian repression and the possible next step to Macedonian re-unification. ..And, if Hitler was the guy to bring that about, then so be it.

The division of Macedonia would still have been fresh in their minds at this time – Only 30 years since the Balkan wars and 40 years since the Ilinden Uprising. In addition, they would have been well aware that IMRO was still very active in Bulgaria while it was being persecuted by the Serbs in “Vardar Banovina” or “Southern Serbia”.

So, in the context of all this, coupled with the photo of a united Macedonia standing alone, with no Bulgaria in sight, it would be understandable from a Bulgarian point of view (and a Greek view) if someone wanted to photo-shop a sign in that suggests kinship with the invading Bulgarians.
The photo with the sign is the real one.
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The photo with the sign is the real one.
So many Maso's say it's fake
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The photo with the sign is the real one.
Thanks for the reply Niko. I had no reason to doubt the authenticity of the photo with the sign either but now that some conjecture has been thrown onto it, I felt I needed confirmation from someone who might know. Do you mind if I ask how you know it is the original one as you seem to have responded with some authority and confidence there.
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Thanks for the reply Niko. I had no reason to doubt the authenticity of the photo with the sign either but now that some conjecture has been thrown onto it, I felt I needed confirmation from someone who might know. Do you mind if I ask how you know it is the original one as you seem to have responded with some authority and confidence there.
I wonder who is holding the map up.

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Thanks for the reply Niko. I had no reason to doubt the authenticity of the photo with the sign either but now that some conjecture has been thrown onto it, I felt I needed confirmation from someone who might know. Do you mind if I ask how you know it is the original one as you seem to have responded with some authority and confidence there.
The first time I saw the photo was with the sign. The other appeared years after on some Macedonian facebook group. The sign fits into the ideology of the Bulgarian occupation at the time. They were trying to make Macedonians think they are liberators who will unite Macedonia. They did the same thing in Lerin. Unification would later be followed by annexation, hence the slogan "One nation, one king, one kingdom". Not sure why this is so hard for people today to understand.

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So many Maso's say it's fake
Tell your friends on facebook that by censoring/photoshoping images they are only giving more strength to our enemies and damaging the Macedonian cause, not the other way around.
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