Independence day celebrations at Federation Square?

[XRVOL]

Guys, does anyone know if these celebrations will continue this year? We have a good thing going with this. It should be continued.

[Mikail]

Rogi, Any ideas whether this will be going ahead?

[Prolet]

Goran Torbakov who is the current President of the Makedonski Sovet in Victoria would be the best person to ask this, there was clashes with the former committee lead by Zlate Nicevski and Ico Najdovski so who knows what will happen.

The question is will the former committee continue to support this?

[Mikail]

No Prolet, The question is, is the current committee supporting this? The did take over last year and are they going to uphold Macedonian values and Cause.

If you know something then let us know!

[Blagojce]

Goran Torbakov who is the current President of the Makedonski Sovet in Victoria would be the best person to ask this, there was clashes with the former committee lead by Zlate Nicevski and Ico Najdovski so who knows what will happen.

The question is will the former committee continue to support this?

I was about to ask if this event was still scheduled for next week. Been to the previous two, last years was pretty impressive.

What were the clashes for? Why is there so much argument and distrust in our community?

[Prolet]

Bogojce, Its actually much worse then that, Ico on his radio said that he's recieved threats from current committee members and he wants proper action to be taken.

Mikail, I understand where you are getting at, but we've seen no advertizing whats so ever and this is less then a week away. Keep in mind that the Shrine of Rememberance ceremony was promoted weeks before Ilinden however we havnt heard anything about the flags on Fed Square not even on Ico's radio station.

[Blagojce]

Just once it seemed to be taking off and turning into a yearly event, it appears it wont be occurring this year.

Still find it hard to believe that people would fight or have contrasting views in a committee where it simply was to organise the raising of 8 flags.

[Mikail]

Well if it doesn't take place, we can only assume that Petar has put an end to it. The takeover of the association was arranged by him and his supporters.

I had my reservations at the time of the 'coup' and it would appear I had every right to doubt this groups motives.

[XRVOL]

Yeah, asked Goran Torbakov.

The morning ceremony will take place. Unfortunately, the evening festivities are not going to take place.

[Mikail]

In that case, I offer my apologies for the above rant.

[Rogi]

Mikail, I disagree with your assessement above at post #8.

Imagine moving into a role where many people rely on you (in this case the entire community) from the get-go, but the previous employee (in this case the previous committee) didn't leave you with any documentation or support at all on the existing projects. It really leaves you to pick everything up from scratch - I believe that is what has occurred in this case. I think they are trying to pick up and maintain all pre-existing initiatives as well as start up some new ones (i.e Spring Festival, etc).

From what I can see, much of their work has been getting their house in order first and getting some sort of processes in place to manage things correctly. I notice a new updated website has also gone up for the Macedonian Community Council of Victoria at http://www.mccvic.org


Prolet, Zlate Niceski is still involved with the Macedonian Community Council of Victoria. See their organisation charts, which I just saw on their website:

http://www.mccvic.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=2

* On another note, the Australian Macedonian Spring Festival due to take place this Sunday has been postponed due to the expected heavy rain, storms and flash flooding for this weekend. I just saw the announcement at: http://www.mccvic.org/index.php?opti...ement&Itemid=1

[Mikail]

Rogi I take your point for my post 8 and I did extend my apologies in post 10 as opposed to deleting it.

This group is/was branded as being pro-Petar and if they are making positive initiatives and steering clear of the church politics then I applaud their efforts.

[Prolet]

Rogi, Zlate Nicevski was the President and Ico Najdovski was the Secretary, if you recall during the protest in 2008 Zlate Nicevski made a speech in front of the parliament. That committee was also heavily involved in organizing the protest as i recall Ico Najdovski was constantly telling people to show their support and he interviewed many patriots in the lead up. I recall an interview by Aco Taleski who gave one of the most inspirational interviews in a long time.

Mikail, Ico Najdovski threatened legal action over the legality of the voting, he still hasnt done anything. Even Zlate Nicevski who was the President at the time agreed that the voting was done in a fair and democratic way.

[Rogi]

That committee was heavily involved in organising the protest? Prolet, I beg to differ - I have all the notes from all the meeting minutes, because I attended all the meetings, and I can sure you that the word 'heavily' is not something you should use.

As for the voting in the Community Council's AGM, I also read-through the Constitution of the Macedonian Community Council of Victoria (MCCV) myself and what transpired at that AGM, was completely in accordance with the MCCV Constitution, I don't think any reasonably intelligent person will disptue that.

[Prolet]

Rogi, Are we talking about the same protest here? I think that they even payed the Public Liability insurance since you cant arrange a protest if you dont have it. It seems strange to me why Ico would go through all that effort if he wasnt one of the main organizors of the Protest.