United Macedonia Diaspora - Page 142

Vangelovski · 01-14-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TajnataKniga

umd has a branch in australia: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/421/127/

and umd has a volunter staff in australia: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/422/130/

Our Australian Volunteer Staff

Ordan Andreevski, Director of Australian Operations

B.A Urban Studies, Grad. Dip. Planning, Master of Business Marketing (Monash)

Ljupco Stankovski, Editor in Chief, Australian Macedonian Weekly

Zoran Milenkovski, UMD Co-founder

Zoran has a Masters (IT Project Mgmt.) from RMIT and has experience in IT project management and network/communications management. In addition, Zoran has worked with companies including MayneGroup, Armaguard, Toll Logistics, SKAI Systems. Zoran also is a share holder and board member of Chinese technology company www.qnite.com.

Anthony Laskovski, PhD Candidate, University of Newcastle

sounds to me umd has an educated bunch involved.

And only one of these is currently a Board member.

TajnataKniga · 01-14-2010, 10:23 PM

i did a search on umd's website for the search term 'australia' and found the following pretty good work:

http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/430/51/ - vangelovski were you involved with this?
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/396/49/
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/395/49/ - nobody was hurt i hope?
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/389/51/ - impressive
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/338/51/ - no visas
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/261/115/ - vangelovski, doesnt say umd was involved with this but by promoting it on their website de facto were involved?
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/210/9/ - vangelovski looks like u were involved
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/211/52/ - great letter from vangelovski
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/207/51/ - another great letter vangelovski
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/185/51/ - bravo
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/131/52/ - australian macedonian refused entry into grease
http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/127/9/ - looks like umd and amhrc have worked together

TajnataKniga · 01-14-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vangelovski

And only one of these is currently a Board member.

ha, your response is ridiculous. big deal. the point is australia has a umd.

Vangelovski · 01-14-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TajnataKniga

ha, your response is ridiculous. big deal. the point is australia has a umd.

Are you following this thread at all?

TajnataKniga · 01-14-2010, 10:26 PM

baba looks great! :-) babino sine.

doesnt seem to me like umd is trying to change macedonia's name.

jewish support?

Vangelovski · 01-14-2010, 10:28 PM

Charlatan, the only undermining I see here is your (and UMD's) unwavering support for the Interim Accord and Framework Agrement.

Buktop · 01-14-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Charlatan,

How about you READ the entire thread. How about you learn the basics of constitutionalism and republicanism and then read the Macedonian constitution.

How about you test your "theories" with a law professor or a political philosophy professor?

Article 8 of the Constitution states

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Anything that is not prohibited by the Constitution or by law is permitted in the Republic of Macedonia.

What I said in this entire thread.

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Originally Posted by Buktop

UNLESS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY THE CONSTITUTION THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE PARLIAMENTARIANS IS LEGAL.

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UNLESS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY THE CONSTITUTION, ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE PARLIAMENTARIANS ARE DESIGNATED TO BE WITHIN THEIR AUTHORITY...

The non-existence of clauses within the constitution does not prohibit action.

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Actions are considered within the authority of the constitution unless otherwise prohibited by the constitution.

Once more, quote for us all here the relevant constitutional clauses that prohibit the actions taken by the government.

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I am not saying that it is right, I am saying due to a flawed constitution these parliamentarians have the right to negotiate. And not only that, but the fact that the citizens that voted for the parliamentarians did not object also signifies consent (as I have argued with you about before)

And there are plenty more...

Why can't you admit when you are wrong?

TajnataKniga · 01-14-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Are you following this thread at all?

yep & cant see your point. i think there is a lot of australian support based on what ive read.

Buktop · 01-14-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Charlatan, the only undermining I see here is your (and UMD's) unwavering support for the Interim Accord and Framework Agrement.

Once more, you have failed to show any proof concerning that allegation.

Vangelovski · 01-14-2010, 10:33 PM

Charlatan, I think I've wasted enough time on a cheerleader, I'll let you have the last word after this so post away. Meanwhile, the community here are demanding to know why Meto has been allowed a session here. I need to refocus my attention and put out some fires.

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01-14-2010, 10:28 PM	#1416
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,520	Charlatan, the only undermining I see here is your (and UMD's) unwavering support for the Interim Accord and Framework Agrement. __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

01-14-2010, 10:33 PM	#1420
Vangelovski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,520	Charlatan, I think I've wasted enough time on a cheerleader, I'll let you have the last word after this so post away. Meanwhile, the community here are demanding to know why Meto has been allowed a session here. I need to refocus my attention and put out some fires. __________________ If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14 The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

01-14-2010, 10:23 PM	#1412
TajnataKniga Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: United Kingdom of Macedonia Posts: 196	i did a search on umd's website for the search term 'australia' and found the following pretty good work: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/430/51/ - vangelovski were you involved with this? http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/396/49/ http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/395/49/ - nobody was hurt i hope? http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/389/51/ - impressive http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/338/51/ - no visas http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/261/115/ - vangelovski, doesnt say umd was involved with this but by promoting it on their website de facto were involved? http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/210/9/ - vangelovski looks like u were involved http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/211/52/ - great letter from vangelovski http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/207/51/ - another great letter vangelovski http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/185/51/ - bravo http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/131/52/ - australian macedonian refused entry into grease http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/127/9/ - looks like umd and amhrc have worked together

01-14-2010, 10:26 PM	#1415
TajnataKniga Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: United Kingdom of Macedonia Posts: 196	baba looks great! :-) babino sine. doesnt seem to me like umd is trying to change macedonia's name. jewish support?

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